EU withdrawal showdown – not a matter of if, but when

Adding weight to what we keep saying on this blog, that David Cameron is engaging in fairytale politics with his pledges to ‘renegotiate’ Britain’s ‘relationship’ with the EU, is an intervention from the French president, Francois Hollande.  As the Telegraph reports:

The French President, Francois Hollande, declared that Europe is not “a la carte” like a menu from which member states can pick and choose their powers.

He issued his rebuke to the Prime Minister as Mr Cameron insisted he would fight for a “better deal for Britain” and seek to take back certain powers from Europe.

The idea of a pick and mix EU is a non starter and now we have not just an EU bureaucrat offering that assessment anonymously, we now have a head of state of a major EU member doing so.  The commitment of EU member states is to ever closer union, but Cameron’s non-existant fairtytale option of taking some powers back but leaving other areas under EU control flies in the face of that.  The option is simply not on the table and the EU knows allowing it would result in the unpicking of the acquis communautaire.

Cameron and the Europlastics need to understand EU membership is a binary condition.  You’re fully in or you’re completely out.  Just as a woman can’t be a little bit pregnant, a country can’t be a little bit of an EU member – even though both conditions originate from having been screwed.

The drawbacks of membership and increasing recognition of the loss of self determination in this country are strongly outweighing the retailed positives, resulting in a growing number of Britons saying they would like to leave the union.  The number will only increase as more people come to recognise Cameron and the Tories have been telling tall tales, and that recognition will dawn as more interventions from the likes of Hollande are publicised.

That means there will eventually be a showdown and the battle will be the in-out question. It’s not a question of if, Hollande has seen to that.  It’s now a matter of when.  The EUsceptics will need to be on their game to defeat the wreckers of the Tory Europlastic tendancy.

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6 Responses to “EU withdrawal showdown – not a matter of if, but when”


  1. 1 Andy Baxter 14/12/2012 at 9:19 pm

    “Just as a woman can’t be a little bit pregnant, a country can’t be a little bit of an EU member – even though both conditions originate from having been screwed.”

    Quality….and as succinct a fact as water is wet!

  2. 2 Ripper 14/12/2012 at 11:30 pm

    “Just as a woman can’t be a little bit pregnant, a country can’t be a little bit of an EU member – even though both conditions originate from having been screwed.”

    Priceless!!

  3. 3 cosmic 15/12/2012 at 12:05 am

    Almost certainly Cameron will be able to put it all off to his advantage with promises of what happens after the GE. What happens after the GE on current trends is that we’ll have a Labour government which doesn’t have the Tory juggling act to do.

    Realistically I think we need to be looking beyond the Tory europlastic tendency and towards Miliband, although the Tories are the immediate target.

    Then we have a Labour government which has a less dishonest take on the EU, but has many of the same problems, we will be second class members, they can’t make us first class members by joining the Euro, they have the growing problem of euroscepticism to face, likely with the Tories duplicitously stoking the fires on the ground of the referendum they would have given if only we had voted for them.

    Yes, the weakness of the Tories’ position is this mystical renegotiation which is supposed to take place by vague means attached to the negotiation of treaties for forming the Eurozone inner core, but which they can’t explain. They certainly don’t go into what they will do if the others say no, or even what they are trying to repatriate.

    In both cases the deal on offer to the British political class isn’t as attractive as it once was.

    I suspect part of the problem is that the Tories really believe this half-way house nonsense and don’t have much of an idea what they are talking about.

  4. 4 permex 15/12/2012 at 12:11 am

    Hollande is probably more useless and unreliable than Dickhead Dave but sometimes both unwittingly blurt out the facts. I do hope that someone was listening when he broke wind.

  5. 5 Furor Teutonicus 15/12/2012 at 4:14 am

    XX Cosmic; I suspect part of the problem is that the Tories really believe this half-way house nonsense and don’t have much of an idea what they are talking about. XX

    Aye. The “Torys”, under Commyron seem just as air headed about world politics today, as all those pratts in my school, and I am sure all other schools, who at 16, dreamed wet dreams of Ché gevara, and “world revolution”. And how they could change the whole “system” by joining and disrupting the school debating club.

  6. 6 Brian H 15/12/2012 at 3:54 pm

    “We’d all love to see the plan.”


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