David Cameron’s ‘fax democracy’ lie nailed by the facts

If you read about this

Then please do take a few moments to read this by Witterings from Witney, followed by this from Richard at EU Referendum.

It might not please some of the Cameroon true blue Tory partisan party animals but the truth, rather than Cameron’s shameful lies, should be told.  When you see the scale of the deception you have to ask what other lies are being told.

Similarly it might not please some of the Farage fan club in UKIP but the content of those two blog posts, rather than tweets such as the one below a day after the lies were told, is how you tackle and defeat Europhile untruths.  It makes one wonder whose side he’s on.

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4 Responses to “David Cameron’s ‘fax democracy’ lie nailed by the facts”


  1. 1 Furor Teutonicus 15/12/2012 at 5:25 am

    XX He warns “We will have absolutel no say over the rules”. XX

    Aye. correct

    XX When Iceland does try to deviate from the EU rules, the EFTA Surveillance Authority (ESA) intervenes. More than a dozen times, the Authority has taken direct action or issued formal infringement procedures against Iceland before the EFTA Court for being in violation of EU law. The number of cases against Iceland increased substantially after the 2008 economic crash. Even though EEA legislation needs to be passed through the Icelandic Parliament, it has increasingly become evident that the EEA EFTA Member States cannot refuse EU legislation without threatening the
    whole arrangement. If this were to happen, it would go against the overall aim of the EEA Agreement, which is to ensure legal homogeneity in the Single Market, and it would be in the hands of the European Commission to decide whether or not to suspend the part of the EEA Agreement that refers to vetoed legislation. XX

    A more clear case of “you are free to do what you like, but don’t forget my gun pointing at your head, and the fact I know where your kids go to school!”

    Particularly the last sentence.

    THAT is not “free to choose/legistlate/Veto, THAT is the prisoner being allowed to have a play station, because the guard knows damn well, the prisoner farts out of tune, that Playstation can JUST as easily be taken away.

  2. 2 witteringsfromwitney 15/12/2012 at 9:32 am

    Thanks for the link and comment, AM.

    I know you will respond to FT, above, as I feel unable so to do, this not being my home…..

  3. 3 Autonomous Mind 15/12/2012 at 5:13 pm

    If he has read your post and that of Richard then there’s nothing else to add. If he hasn’t read the posts then he can find the rebuttal to his points there.

  4. 4 Furor Teutonicus 15/12/2012 at 5:24 pm

    XX it would be in the hands of the European Commission to decide whether or not to suspend the part of the EEA Agreement that refers to vetoed legislation.XX

    Is all you need to know.

    Norway, Switzerland, Iceland may THINK themselves free, but, if they “step beyond the line….

    XX A more clear case of “you are free to do what you like, but don’t forget my gun pointing at your head, and the fact I know where your kids go to school!”

    Particularly the last sentence.

    THAT is not “free to choose/legistlate/Veto, THAT is the prisoner being allowed to have a play station, because the guard knows damn well, the prisoner farts out of tune, that Playstation can JUST as easily be taken away. XX

    So, basically Commyron was right.

    You can not live with them, you can not live without them.


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