Greens’ idiocy underlined again

A BBC story today about a scheme to allow electric car users to charge their vehicles across London being launched reveals the idiocy of the political class on a number of levels.

But while London Mayor Boris Johnson is shown up for yet another bout of foolishness, pledging to install 1,300 charging points across the capital in the next two years instead of the 7,500 he originally promised in that time frame, it is the Green party that takes the prize for their environmental lunacy. As the story explains:

Green Party London Assembly member Darren Johnson said: “The mayor never explained how he would fund the ambitious plans for 25,000 charging points which he launched with a big fan-fair in 2009.

“He has also failed to guarantee that the charging points will run on renewable energy, so the environmental gains are far less than they should be.”

Perhaps we should be asking Darren Johnson just how electricity from renewable sources can be segregated from electricity generated by conventional means as it is sent down the lines into London.

Perhaps he could also explain how, assuming electricity could be segregated in such a way, what electric car drivers would do when the wind doesn’t blow and no juice is coming down the wire from the lavishly subsidised wind farms where turbines are barely moving.

There is a certain surreal quality to the kind of utopian world the Greens think we should inhabit. Their lack of realism and their rejection of an industrialised world, where people can travel long distances inexpensively and engage in trade that benefits millions, shows them up for the deluded and damaging ideologues they really are.

In the world of the Greens the lights will regularly go out, transport and industrial production will often be interrupted, the cost of our power will soar ever higher as decades of progress are reversed in the name of environmentalism. Perversely the Greens’ plans would result in far greater pressure on this country’s natural resources and far more harm being done to the environment than is done today.

15 Responses to “Greens’ idiocy underlined again”

  1. 1 Grumpy Old Man 26/05/2011 at 2:44 pm

    Dear AM. What the Green really meant was that Boris should ensure that sufficient bird-mincers are erected in the greater london area to supply the amount of power needed for recharging cars that no-one but greens will buy – a case of special pleading if ever I heard one.
    Boris has rather adroitly cut 25,000 charging points to 1300 so should be applauded for the political nous to run with the fox while hunting with the hounds.

    The greens will not be satisfied until the open spaces within the Motorway of Doom are covered with a monstrous regiment of useless eyesores and our elderly are dying of cold or succumbing to heatwaves, (if the “final solution” policies of the NHS don’t get them first) through lack of cheap power. The Muscular Liberal doubtless finds the greens swivel-eyed histrionics useful as a shield deflecting public ire from his far more effective methods of beggaring (Buggering?) the UK.

  2. 2 PT 26/05/2011 at 2:47 pm

    Excellent post. Just a suggestion? Perhaps all Green-leaning people, defined as such by their public utterances, should be allowed only those energy resources demonstrably Green in origin. So, no electricity from the National Grid, no gas, no oil. They’d be perfectly free to use power from their own solar scheme, wind turbines or hydroelectric/wave power/tidal power scheme of course (planning laws permitting.) I imagine that simple humanity would compel us to allow them the use of tap water, and disposal of their sewage, using non-Green energy, as well as the purchase of food delivered to shops by non-Green lorries. But even so, I’d still bet it’d be a cold, cold winter for them and their families.

  3. 3 Chuckles 26/05/2011 at 3:14 pm

    It’s those special recycled electrons they want.

    I have noticed that part of the reality disconnect by such, is that there is usually no understanding of the simple axiom that such ideas and their implementation, have costs, and that these costs are an important factor in deciding whether or not to implement them.

    That a thing can be done is enough, therefore it must be done.

  4. 4 PhilJourdan 26/05/2011 at 3:57 pm

    <blockquoteIn the world of the Greens the lights will regularly go out, transport and industrial production will often be interrupted, the cost of our power will soar ever higher as decades of progress are reversed in the name of environmentalism.

    Actually no, the green world would have no humans in it as they are the cancer on nature. So there would be no need for travel or lights and all animals would live in blissful harmony.

    It should surprise no one that the old eugenics movement just repackaged itself – they figured they could move their ideas forward with the help of willing idiots.

  5. 5 John Coles 26/05/2011 at 5:26 pm

    No small part of the problem is that the “Green” politicians, and others, are schooled in the humanities and completely unburdened by any engineering knowledge. This is an inevitable outcome when, over past decades, our society has seen no value in science and engineering: welcome to the world of media studies and degrees in surfing.

  6. 6 Martin Brumby 26/05/2011 at 6:40 pm

    “Green Party London Assembly member Darren Johnson said: “The mayor never explained how he would fund the ambitious plans for 25,000 charging points which he launched with a big fan-fair in 2009.”

    The only fan-fair is all the stupid ruddy wind turbines.

    I think he means “fanfare”.

    I always used to think that, if the Greens had brains, they’d be dangerous.

    But as it turns out, they are far more dangerous to our society than Al Qaeda’s little chums ever were.

    And of course, the Nasty Party, The Limp-Dims and the Labia Party, having spent the last twenty years stealing the Greenie’s clothes, have been sucked into the same execrable nonsense.

  7. 7 woodsy42 26/05/2011 at 8:41 pm

    “segregated from electricity generated by conventional means”

    But aren’t the electrons a different colour, they keep saying they are green! It should be easy to sort out.

    Last year in Paris I noticed charging points had been installed, along with free parking spaces, along the Avenue De Paris near the Palace of Versailles. Electric cables were trailed over the pavement between car and post, if I had left such trailing cables in my work area health and safety would have closed it.

  8. 8 Richard North 27/05/2011 at 8:51 am

    Look, I keep bloody telling you lot … put wind turbines on top of the cars and they can recharge while they are driving around … they will never run out of juice … simples.

  9. 9 Grumpy Old Man 27/05/2011 at 8:58 am

    @ Richard North. How are you going to get the cars in and out of carparks with height restrictions?

  10. 10 microdave 27/05/2011 at 1:20 pm

    @ Richard North – Haven’t you booked a test drive yet?

  11. 11 jameshigham 27/05/2011 at 6:45 pm

    It’s more than just a lack of realism – it’s subscribing to very nasty policies along the way.

  12. 12 Steve 28/05/2011 at 3:42 pm

    This article seems a bit silly. I used to buy electric from Scottish Power. I don’t think they had special wires coming across the border. Sure the concept sounded daft at the dawn of privatisation, but most of us who’ve visited “Switch-with-Which” or somesuch website are used to it now.

    I now buy “green electricity”. The simple notion (OK not so simple once you start considering tradeable ROCs etc) is that the green kilowatt-hours I and others use at one end should over time be matched by supply at the other. The more we greenies buy, the more that has to be generated. That’s all.

  13. 13 Brian H 29/05/2011 at 10:46 am

    No, Steve, that’s nonsense.

    Here’s the only way it could work:
    A running balance of available Green KW is kept, and Greens get it first come first serve off the mains — by paying the full price/kwh for what they take. When the limit is reached, they’d have the choice of being cut off or taking dirty power at a much lower price till there was some spare Green kilowattage to buy. Since wind and other Green power supply varies unpredicably, this would have to be handled millisec to millisec by special Smart Power hookups, with their pre-programmed preferences stored on their client systems.

  14. 14 vernon e 30/05/2011 at 2:49 pm

    We(us sceptics)are being too quick to rubbish electric cars. There is a lot of benefit to be gained from taking advantage of the huge difference between our peak daytime demand for electricity and the lower nighttime demand when our generators have to be kept operating at maximum turn-down/lowest effiency. There are numerous potential electric car users who would only need to recharge overnight, including in-city small/medium commercial vans.

  15. 15 Brian H 31/05/2011 at 3:01 am

    vernon e;
    Exactly. And “numerous” understates it. Well over 90% of charging of the Tesla Roadster in the US now occurs that way. Some gloat about using “free power” from solar panels, but that’s usually sold to the grid at very high prices, while they charge at night at the lowest rates. Kind of a subsidy scam going on there (not to mention the payouts for the installations themselves). However, in the larger picture, overnight charging off the grid is going to be far and away the dominant method.

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