The real reason for the Guardian-BBC assault on News International

The churnalists are up in arms.  The carefully constructed media narrative has it that the News of the World, and by extension the entire Rupert Murdoch empire, has singlehandedly ruined the reputation of journalism.

We are witnessing manipulation par excellence at play, as reports that personal details of families of war dead and serious crime victims were found in the possession of Glenn Mulcaire are spun to suggest their phone messages were intercepted – despite there being no evidence (as yet) that such actions happened.  Emotions are running wild and large tracts of the British public are being herded like sheep into a mind numbing mantra against not just those who may be responsible at the News of the World, but also its owner and his future business ambitions.

Make no mistake, I carry no brief for Murdoch.  But I cannot stand seeing the British people being misled by his opportunist opponents who have a self serving agenda that is not in the interest of the public.

The hypocrisy and double standards at play here are incredible.  The Guardian has not pursued this story for the noble aim of getting at the truth, but in a desperate effort to undermine Rupert Murdoch, with the full connivance of its broadcast arm, the BBC.  The phone hacking scandal, while criminal and disgusting, is nothing more than a rider for a campaign where something far greater is at stake – maintaining the left-liberal media consensus that holds sway in this country, ably laid bare by this 2009 column by Stephen Glover in the Mail in which he refers to this ‘intellectual tyranny’.

There is a cosy left leaning consensus in the UK media which sees reporters easily slip from the BBC to Channel 4 to ITV because they are all members of the same exclusive club.  It is the same in the newspaper broadsheets, Guardian journalists are just as comfortable at the Telegraph and there is interchange between them despite the supposed politically partisan nature of two organs.  The reality is the UK television media is not only part of the establishment, it is grouped firmly on the left.

There is no right-leaning television counterbalance to the output in this country.  But as Fox News in the US has shown, reporting of stories from a small ‘c’ conservative perspective puts a very different gloss on things and offers viewers an alternative to the media discourse broadcast on the established channels.  Fox is routinely sullied by the leftists, but it appeals to a significant audience that is no longer forced to rely on CNN or MSNBC’s liberal output, and as such it has become the dominant cable news network in the United States.

Imagine if such an alternative was to emerge in the UK, an alternative that resonates with ordinary people who can see the bias but whose only choice is to listen in or hit the off button. Sky News has the capacity to become that kind of news outlet if it is wholly owned by a conservative – even though Sky would have to spin off the channel from the rest of the BSkyB group.  Sky itself could play host to current affairs and documentaries coming from a conservative viewpoint.   The BBC don’t want that and the Guardian, which influences so much BBC output, doesn’t want that either.  Which is why the phone hacking issue has been transformed by the Guardian and BBC into the campaign it really is – stop Murdoch from owning Sky.

The cynicism is sickening, but the stakes are the highest.  This is about exerting influence over the British people.  The propaganda broadcast on any number of issues, from climate change to public spending, is designed to underpin the ‘progressive’ agenda.  That influence will weaken if a conservative leaning alternative is available for viewers to choose.  Love him or hate him, Murdoch has the capacity to deliver that alternative which is why he is being assailed.

In the US the other media spend an inordinate amount of time attacking Fox because they recognise it as a threat to their influence.  Viewers are not being served an exclusively diet left-liberal menu which omits stories or information from a conservative viewpoint.  Here in the UK we now see the media attacking Murdoch because they see him as a threat to the British people continuing to be served the current diet of left-liberal output.  But it was not always the case.  Indeed there was no outcry against Murdoch in 1989 when Sky News was the only exclusive news channel in the UK.  A trawl of the Guardian’s archives doesn’t throw up a single article criticising Sky when it was wholly owned by Murdoch in its early years.  There was nothing suggesting Sky was partial and certainly nothing about media plurality.  Perhaps that is because Fox was still seven years away had yet to make its breakthrough and challenge the consensus which up to then had felt unassailable.

In 1990 the left-liberal tactic of refusing to provide a spread of facts and opinions was finally challenged by the Broadcasting Bill which pushed the concept of ‘due impartiality’.  What could be less benign than ensuring broadcasters are impartial?  Clearly there was something because the Guardian railed against it and even called for due impartiality to be scrapped altogether – and when it passed Labour vowed to repeal it.

How things changed by 2003…

You couldn’t make it up, could you?

Sensing how Murdoch’s plans for Sky News could break the stranglehold of the left-liberal media consensus, we now see the Guardian championing due impartiality and using it as justification for rejecting Murdoch’s attempt to re-take control of Sky.  However Murdoch wrong footed them by stating he would abide by due impartiality.  This is when the Guardian and its leftist allies seized upon the notion of media plurality, arguing that the power to influence opinion and shape public debate must be in the hands of a diverse range of organisations that compete with each other.

Ironically Murdoch would actually add to media plurality because as we have seen, BBC, Channel 4 and ITV all sing from the same hymnsheet.  But plurality is not the issue, for the left it is all about maintaining their dominance and biased news selection and broadcast and ability to exclude or omit news, facts or opinions that undermine their ‘progressive’ agenda.  We know they do this because Labour’s Ivan Lewis, writing in the Guardian, confirmed it when he said:

While News Corp asserts that Britain’s impartiality rules mean Sky News could never adopt a political agenda akin to Fox News, there remains a real concern about the selection of news, which in itself can significantly distort coverage.

Heaven forbid some other media player should use the same techniques employed by the BBC and others to distort coverage the other way.  They know full well that even under the ‘due impartiality’ laws, a Sky News with a genuinely conservative management and staff will have no problem whatsoever in justifying the broadcast of endless genuine news stories that favour the conservative perspective.  Which is why Lewis was pleading for former Labour man Vince Cable to refer Murdoch takeover bid for Sky to Ofcom.  You know, Ofcom, that ‘independent’ media regulator that could not possibly do anything other than make an impartial decision…

For the Guardian-BBC axis, Murdoch represents a clear and present danger to their grip on national thought.  Therefore their objective is to create such widespread hostility to News International that it will become simply impossible, politically, for the Competition Commission to allow Murdoch’s plans to go through – and politically impossible for the Secretary of State to do anything about it.

This is the reason for the saturation coverage of the phone hacking story.  This is the reason for the rabble rousing and concerted effort to play to people’s emotions.  It is inconceivable that the Guardian, Mirror Group, Mail, Star et al, have not behaved in similarly appalling fashion to dredge up stories.  But as we have seen the Guardian and BBC are maintaining a tightly focused campaign to undermine Murdoch and resisting all efforts to widen enquiries into journalistic practices in general.

Perhaps some people will finally read between the lines, consider the history to this spat, and see the Guardian and BBC’s campaign for what it is.  That doesn’t mean letting journalists and editors from the News of the World get away with illegal and intrusive actions, but recognising there is something much more vital at stake, control of the messages broadcast to the public.

Update: John Coles in the comments sums it up when he says: ‘Phone hacking is a disgrace but these events must not end in the stifling supremacy of the liberal-left media.’  That is their desired endgame and that is the point of this post in a nutshell.  It is exactly the reason this issue is being covered so disproportionately why stories of far greater importance and relevance are being shunted out of sight. Whose interests are they serving?

80 Responses to “The real reason for the Guardian-BBC assault on News International”

  1. 1 Wyrdtimes 07/07/2011 at 2:45 pm

    Inclined to agree. It’s also had the added bonus (from the BBC/Guardian perspective) of knocking the scandal of “care” for the old folks of England right out of the news.

  2. 2 Junkk Male 07/07/2011 at 3:17 pm

    Also tending to agree.

    Whilst the NoTW, News Int. and even too cosy coalition pols are evidently making a hash out of criminality over a tragedy, what is going down is truly concerning.

    Cynically using a thin veneer of ‘outrage’ to ensure the public is kept coralled and any doubters treading around sacred cows very carefully, the true aims have become all too clear, all too soon.

    They are not even trying to hide not only the agenda, but their desire to control the message absolutely. Ironic given the histrionic wailing about the dangers of media monopoly that have and are being used throughout.

    I don’t want anything to do with Murdoch or his stable. And I don’t have to, via subscription, or even advertising commitment of attention.

    Equally, the Guardian.

    However, I don’t have much choice with the BBC, and under the guise of ‘improving’ outreach and interactivity, the few blogs are being crippled (two of the most influential are either ruthless modded or only open to serve activist working hours, in clear abuse of the obligations of the Charter to the licence fee-paying public) and they seem content to do ‘business’ via twitter. Any old gossip in to reheat as ‘news’, and unconcealed tribal rallying using the BBC brand to generate pressure without worrying about the ballot box that so disappoints them these days.

    Scary stuff.

  3. 3 John Coles 07/07/2011 at 3:35 pm

    Agree completely. We see the liberal uber-class trying to snuff out the future of SKY for fear of a British FOX News – something that is badly needed to redress the left-wing bias of the BBC and the dead tree press.
    ‘Phone hacking is a disgrace but these events must not end in the stifling supremacy of the liberal-left media.
    Expect no resilience from Jezza Hunt – he’s a recycled SDP politician and a friend of Dave’s.

  4. 4 orkneylad 07/07/2011 at 4:29 pm

    AM – Most excellent article.

  5. 5 Michael Fowke 07/07/2011 at 4:35 pm

    @John Coles

    “Something that is badly needed to redress the left-wing bias of the BBC and the dead tree press.”

    Yes, very badly needed.

  6. 6 AJC 07/07/2011 at 5:08 pm

    Is there any evidence of actual phone hacking or interception of mobile communications being used by NI (or their agents)? Perhaps I have missed something.

    Mobile phone systems are by non means immune to both simple and sophisticated technical hacks but that doesn’t appear to be the case in any of these instances.

    The NotW “hackers” were exploiting a facility many of us use ie. to access our voicemail remotely. Nothing more nothing less.

    For various reasons many people don’t bother to set/change their pin – I bet that applies to many of the political and celebrity victims – possibly in a few cases the pins were broken by trial and error (the network operators should be detecting repeated attempts).

    So lets call it “hacking”.

  7. 7 Lynne 07/07/2011 at 5:33 pm

    I got heartily sick of the leftist media bias and the BS “sleb” culture masquerading as current affairs (sic) years ago. I don’t see why my money should fund rubbish like that. So I began filtering my own news. Never looked back.

  8. 8 Monbigot 07/07/2011 at 5:37 pm

    A brilliant incisive article which cuts straight to the blood which is pumping this media monster. If only our present day press had such quality may be they would not be in their desperate state.

    I hope one day we get a Fox news driven by people with the intellectual capacity and common sense notions of the people like AA, Booker, Dellers and North.

    Just listening to the squealing from the GuardourBeeb brigade would be a most welcome benign resonance to one’s lugholes.

  9. 9 Guessed 07/07/2011 at 5:54 pm

    Chris Bryant and John Prescott are two of the most dogged anti-Murdoch campaigners. They are also both Comm*n Purpose “graduates”.

  10. 10 Jaz 07/07/2011 at 5:58 pm

    Left wing bias of the MSM? You mean The Daily Telegraph, The Sunday Telegraph, The Mail, The Mail on Sunday, The Times, The Sunday Times, The Financial Times, The Daily Express, The Sunday Express are all rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth lefties?
    The Daily Mail is the world’s second largest circulation news website.

  11. 11 anglichan 07/07/2011 at 6:05 pm

    It wasn’t so long ago that Sky was using the same sort of ‘moral outrage’, now being directed against TNOTW, in order to get rid of Richard Keys and Andy Gray. In my view, we don’t need a ‘conservative’ option in the media, we need an integrity option. I don’t want dishonest, cynical, self- serving media organisations of the Left or the Right.

  12. 12 mat 07/07/2011 at 6:27 pm

    “I don’t want dishonest, cynical, self- serving media organisations of the Left or the Right”
    So what are you going to do about the Left dishonest, cynical, self- serving media organisations one you have now?

  13. 13 Brian H 07/07/2011 at 6:40 pm

    Compare randomly and day’s reportage in the US by Fox News and any of the alphabet soup outlets. Then tell me which is biased.

    Fox cable news gets more viewers than the next 3 or 4 of the competition COMBINED. The reason, believe me, is not the stupidity of the viewers. It’s because of the unremitting and over-the-top one-sidedness of all the others.

    Virtually every editorial program on Fox has at least one leftist commentator, with strong credentials. And several of its headline employees are at the least slightly left of center (Rivera, Smith) By contrast, there is not a single conservative host or regular guest on any of others. None.

    The UK may or may not know what it’s missing, but from abroad (Canada) the gap is gaping.

  14. 14 Brian H 07/07/2011 at 6:40 pm

    typo: “any day’s reportage”

  15. 15 Billy Liar 07/07/2011 at 7:18 pm

    Thank you for this article. I thought it was only me who was perplexed by the faux outrage being poured out by the BBC on the ‘alleged’ phone hacking that ‘might, may or could’ have taken place by TNOTW journalists some years ago.

  16. 16 jameshigham 07/07/2011 at 7:24 pm

    Hadn’t really thought of it in these terms but it makes sense.

  17. 17 Martin Brumby 07/07/2011 at 7:27 pm

    I’ve never purchased News of the World, Sun or Sky. Ever.

    I tried the Times, I tried but got sick of the constant cAGW bullshit.

    Like Jaz @ 5:58 I’m not entirely convinced that some kind of balance can’t be found in the press (although none of them has a good record with cAGW balance. But the Failygraph and the Daily Nasty are at least printing a reasonable number of sceptical pieces now.

    But TV / Radio is a big problem. I’m not aware of a sensible radio channel and admit to listening to Radio 3 a fair bit. But Radio 4 is VERY biased. And on TV, you actually get more balance on the Russian news! (OK, not when they are discussing Russia!)

    When I’ve seen Fox in the US it isn’t too bad. For a US TV station!

  18. 18 Carps 07/07/2011 at 7:51 pm

    A clear sighted analysis of the motives and (as ever) the rank hypocrisy of the left media. However, this is one instance where I regretfully cannot conclude that my enemy’s enemy is my friend.

    Murdoch may share some of our political sympathies, but it doesn’t follow that allowing ever larger parts of the media fall into his dominion is in anyone’s interests. This is a man who connived with Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron. A man whose press championed their actions through 13 years of creeping corporatism and will continue to do so if allowed.

    Flag-waving, tear-stained rhetoric about ‘our boys’ and a sceptical eye on Europe aside, Murdoch was a cheerleader for Iraq and any number of laws which have acted to constrain our liberties in the wake of internationalterrorism. Culturally, he is no friend of the British except when it suits him to wrap his activities up in the flag.

    His interests are his own interests exclusively: his interest in ‘conservatism’ is nothing more than him identifying and playing to a constituency because he sees that other sections of the media fail to.

    This isn’t about a putative Fox News, sadly. Nor is it about the breakup of the left media. Those are other fish we have yet to fry.

    The State, The BBC, The EU, the educational establishment and the banks: ruinous because they are too big and too powerful to be corralled and have come to believe in their primacy over your rights and actions. I’m not keen to add Murdoch to that list.

  19. 19 Autonomous Mind 07/07/2011 at 8:07 pm

    An excellent, reasoned and well thought out comment Carps. Everything you say is true and I concur.

    But that doesn’t detract from my hope that this insipid left-liberal media elite is finally forced to deal with a competitor that doesn’t conform to their groupthink.

  20. 20 Patrick Harris 07/07/2011 at 8:31 pm

    Thinks, is everyone sure that this method of gathering stories was/is confined to a few journos on 1 newspaper?
    Is it ever right for police to be paid for stories that have come to light as a result of their investigations into criminal activity.
    Do “regional” newspapers employ the hacking tactic and do they pay local police for crime stories?
    Did Scameron employ Coulson to gain access to Coulson’s “archives”?
    Only asking.

  21. 21 Twenty Benson 07/07/2011 at 8:45 pm

    Great article and it’s difficult to disagree with any of it.

    But, in the week that Huffington Post launched in the UK, the GLARING question is why, oh why will not Autonomous Mind, Richard North, Bishop Hill, Biased BBC along with Delingpole and Booker (if contracts allow) + many other regulars and star contributors GET TOGETHER and create a central killer news website into which they post their articles????

    It’s all very well complaining about the broadcast media and the dead tree press – over which no one has any capacity to influence – but the NEW media which is the future is there NOW for the taking! And cheaply so!

    A well-designed and managed central depository for daily conservative thoughts, reactions, insights and analysis of the news would SURELY become a magnet for the probable majority in this country whose sympathies lie in the same direction.

    Why is the Right so HOPELESS at organising itself? Surely half of the Left’s success in controlling the news agenda is due to its knowledge and exploitation of this sad truth. Blogs like these are EXACTLY where the Left want them to be… marginalised, fractionalised and with tiny audiences. The likes of the BBC and the Guardian must be laughing all the way to the newsroom!

    Why is it? Is it because each conservative blog author wants to cling to some idea of their own proud independence? Is it because they insist on designing all the graphical gumpf that clutters the boarders of their words in a blog template? Is it because they don’t want to feel an obligation to anyone to turn in copy?

    I don’t know the answer – all I know is that I feel doubly frustrated… firstly by the mind-numbing leftwing compliance of the MSM… and secondly by the apparent inability of so many hugely talent people to organise themselves into providing a fighting response.

  22. 22 PaulH from Barcelona 07/07/2011 at 9:17 pm

    @Twenty Benson

    I suspect Richard North has come to the same conclusion. He’s already doing his bit to herd the talented cats, and it would be great if his efforts coalesced into a reader-friendly focal point.

    I would gladly pay a voluntary subscription for such a site – or pay into a start-up fund to get it rolling.

    I suspect many others would too.

  23. 23 UK politics & nature 07/07/2011 at 9:51 pm

    Clearly argued: both stirring and chilling. I had hoped that Jon Gaunt’s court case under article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees the right to free speech, might aid the cause – but this trail seems now to have gone cold.

  24. 24 Paul 07/07/2011 at 11:28 pm

    @ PaulH from Barcelona

    There is already a classic liberal / conservative / libertarian group blog focused around the advancement of liberty at Orphans of Liberty. I regularly comment there and, although it may not seem like much, it is very busy.

  25. 25 Uncle Badger 08/07/2011 at 12:06 am

    I see this quite starkly. Which has done the greater harm to the people of this country: Murdoch’s sleazy press or the BBC-Guardian AGW-supporting, Europhile, pro-immigration, Chomskian, anti-Anglosphere socialist alliance?

    Surely, unless robbed of one’s senses, there can only be one answer?

  26. 26 J Moore 08/07/2011 at 6:48 am

    As a first time visitor to this blog I notice a distinct lack of opposing viewpoints here. Are they “moderated” out or am I the only non-right wing person to have the misfortune of reading this guff?

    While you may deride the BBC et al for what you perceive their agenda to be, I would disagree at comments made about “faux outrage” etc. The fact is PI’s were authorised by NewsCorp employees to engage in privacy invading tactics to get information, and while it is one thing to do it to celebs (though still not ethical) it is an absolute DISGRACE to do it to murder victims and their families. I think you’ll find that the vast majority of the public are indeed genuinely outraged by this, and would be regardless of the politics of the organisation which engaged in such practices. You think the BBC etc. are engaged in cheap points scoring here? Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror, as it seems to me you are doing the exact same thing.

    Brian H: On every Fox news show I have seen that has a left-leaning guest it seems to me that that person is there to be attacked/mocked. There is no such thing as balance on that channel (regardless of what their slogan claims) and they have a history of reporting outright lies. While the BBC may be biased I see more balance in their articles than I see on any American news channel.

    Any UK channel that has a right-wing agenda would have a hard time finding positive stories to broadcast, as the Tories do nothing that is positive for anyone (apart from their big-business chums).

    I’m sure you’ll all find the “news” you seek in a BNP newsletter….

  27. 27 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 8:39 am

    The comments are not moderated, J Moore. The comment about faux outrage is based on the fact the BBC itself engages in similarly questionable practices – as does every other media outlet. The people who should be looking in the mirror are the Guardian and BBC who have hyped this out of all proportion.

    All there has been is confirmation that certain personal details of families of victims has been uncovered. There has not been any evidence that their phone messages were intercepted and this fact is left unspoken by the BBC and Guardian.

    Your reference to the BNP shows your shallow, vacuous ignorance. I have spent more time than I care to remember fighting the BNP and other authoritarian statists. Your ignorance is reinforced by your equating the Tories with the right wing. As for ‘big business chums’ perhaps you should educate yourself about corporatism and how all three main parties support it at the expense of the general public.

    A small ‘c’ conservative news channel would be a breath of fresh air in this country. Perhaps what you fear is the left-liberal domination that fits your own prejudices being challenged by a channel that will not selectively edit out those stories that the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 marginalise and will report counter views and evidence that are deliberately kept off the airwaves lest they undermine the leftist narrative.

  28. 28 Steve 08/07/2011 at 9:34 am

    We DO need a conservative news channel in this country, yes, it would be a breath of fresh air, not to mention good for democracy, ITV & Sky News try, but we need a specific counterview to The BBC world view.

    The people of this country do not identify with or aspire to The BBC World View & why would they ??

    Great article.

  29. 29 Uncle Badger 08/07/2011 at 10:47 am

    I’m in two minds about the need for a conservative news channel. In an ideal world we would have an unbiased source with the resources to do a good job.

    However, unless and until the Left’s hegemonic grip on broadcasting is broken, I think an opposing force is probably needed.

    In passing, like AM I take great exception to the childish remark about the BNP in J Moore’s empty-headed remarks. If that is the best the Left can do – to drag out the rotting corpse of national socialism every time it feels challenged – then its intellectual bankruptcy is proved beyond doubt.

  30. 30 DP111 08/07/2011 at 11:43 am

    Just cant wait to see Fox, if for no other reason to relish the squeals of the BBC and Guardinastas.

    The Left has always been totalitarian, and the means they achieve this is by infiltrating the regular institutions of society. In England it has been the BBC, the civil service, and the church.

  31. 31 Steve 08/07/2011 at 12:20 pm

    Antonio Gramsci, “The Silent Revolution”, Cultural Marxism, all objectives have been achieved in this country, The Police for example could not have been more emasculated even it were possible, even Police Stations are now illegal & we have to put up with extreme Socialist dystopian nonsense, such as the “Police Community Neighbourhood Offices” aka Police Stations, we have Police, sorry “Community” Support Officers who are not allowed to arrest people, The actual really Police are legally not allowed to arrest people that verbally abuse them.
    Watch or listen to any BBC news broadcast, there is always without fail at least one item attacking the Police, it goes without saying.
    The BBC’s relentless campaigns against Christianity whilst actively promoting & funding the Islamification of the country formerly known as Great Britain are just so far beyond the pale, I am not even going to discuss them, because I get too angry.
    In America you have your New York Times & Huffington Post, The Colbert Report etc, but you also have Fox News & The Tea Party etc.
    In England we have nothing, the individual is bashed over the head by The BBC & we have to pay the privilege for it as well!
    Let The BBC find a way to fund themselves or abolish them & would it be too much to see a Conservative show some balls on this issue ?
    Pitiful state of affairs in this country.

  32. 32 Derek 08/07/2011 at 12:35 pm

    There is a gap for a central right media outlet to fill the gap.
    The county is crying out for a serious broadsheet newspaper and BBC Radio 4 like radio station that takes a stand against immigration, Islamism, family values, EU etc. without appearing all chavish, celebrity oriented tabloid.

    This is a great opportunity for serious central right journalists, media tycoons and broadcasters to get together and rescue the country from the progressive onslaught.

  33. 33 Jaz 08/07/2011 at 1:19 pm

    If there is this great demand for a right-wing station then why has one not been set up. Why is that? Here is a great opportunity – go and grasp it.

    The printed media in this country is overwhelming on the right. The largest circulating quality and mid-market papers are both firmly on the right. The largest circulating tabloid is conservative (small ‘c’) and often Conservative. The world’s second largest news site is The Daily Mail which by anyone’s definition is right wing.

    The idea of a consolidated right-wing news site is a great one. Even as an appalling old died-in-the-wool card-carrying member of the Labour Party I would certainly welcome that – and what’s more read it. I might even agree with some of it.

    Your side of the fence is supposed to be all for the unbridled market – well now is your chance.

  34. 34 Rachel at Catalan Cooking 08/07/2011 at 1:25 pm

    Has anyone ever spent any length of time watching Fox news? it is not a right leaning news channel. It’s commentators, were it in any other country in the world, would be upheld as frightening examples of encroaching fascism. Now it may be that Fox represents a great deal of Americans and their way of thinking, but rather than something to be celebrated I would argue that it is of grave concern that there are so many fascists in the US.
    I am all for a right leaning mainstream television news station, but not based on the model of Fox nor something controlled by Murdoch and his ilk.

  35. 35 Uncle Badger 08/07/2011 at 1:37 pm

    Taken from the Lexicon of Leftisms

    “Fascist” – anyone to the Right of Chairman Mao.

  36. 36 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 1:48 pm

    Jaz, don’t let the facts get in the way of your beliefs will you?

    The Times supported Labour and the Telegraph is in bed with the Liberals as the Barclays slowly complete the purge of conservative thinking. Neither has followed a conservative line for a long time. The Daily Mail’s editor Paul Dacre was a new Labour stooge. The Sun is a comic.

    In this country we can’t just set up a TV news channel. You can see the hoops Murdoch is going through and it is only because he wants to run a channel that breaks the left leaning hold on broadcast news in this country. ITV news has shrunk as a result of commercial constraints. Channel 4 is part state subsidised. The BBC has £3bn a year and is so partial as to be laughable.

    People argued there was no demand for Fox in the US. It is now larger than all the other news channels because it reports stories that CNN, ABC, MSNBC et al ignored because they challenged their worldview.

    I wish the right leaning media baron was someone other than Murdoch and a channel something better than Fox. But what this whole furore shows is the desperate measures that will be taken to stop a new entrant to the market who challenges the liberal orthodoxy.

  37. 37 Pete Bevan 08/07/2011 at 1:49 pm

    This article had some credibility until it referenced Fox News as being conservative, or even news. I have to agree totally with J Moore above. What we need in this country is news that reports the facts. Nothing more nothing less. Comment is valuable but it is just that comment, and must be shown as such. The facts should be the thrust of reporting and nothing more.

  38. 38 Pete Bevan 08/07/2011 at 1:50 pm

    AM I’m sorry but Fox News is dying a death in the US. Its figures have been dropping consisntely for months. As has its advertising revenue.

  39. 39 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 1:54 pm

    Rachel, Mussolini was a fascist. Fascism, like Naziism, is a form of authoritarian state socialism. As such it is hardly the preserve of the right. Leftists in this country applauded Mussolini. Hardly what you would expect if he was right wing. I recommend you read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg.

  40. 40 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 1:58 pm

    Feel free to shoot the Fox, Pete, but compared to its competitors Fox is conservative leaning. I have said elsewhere previously I hold no brief for Murdoch and I am no fan of Fox, but what it often does is what is needed here – offer news selection that the other providers choose to ignore because of their biased agendas.

  41. 41 Jaz 08/07/2011 at 2:06 pm

    Autonomous Mind
    Not quite sure which Daily Telegraph you read, but the one that employs Toby Young, James Delingpole, Charles Moore, Ambrose Evans Pritchard, Damian Thompson et al is the one I read.

    Likewise the Times, but clearly we read different papers, or have different interpretations. Are you suggesting that The Times is left wing?

    The Sun may well be a comic, but it is a very popular comic and is very influential. I wouldn’t be quite so dismissive of its impact.

    And The Mail is, of course, hugely influential and has a massive reach.

    If you can’t get a TV station, then use the internet. Look at the viewership figures that popular YouTube clips get – in the 10s and 100s of millions. Where is your entrepreneurial spirit?

  42. 42 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 2:25 pm

    The mistake you are making Jaz is lumping columnists in with people in the newsroom. Tim Montgomerie has written in the Guardian, does that make him one of their journalists or a sudden left wing convert?

  43. 43 Junkk Male 08/07/2011 at 3:11 pm

    Not having watched much (if at all) of Fox, it’s hard to comment on its possible ‘value’ in this country on way or another, but I certainly don’t think matters would be improved much by a ‘counterweight’ situation.

    It may please the mathematicians that some perception of ‘balance’ is achieved, but to get that Nirvanaesque situation as an ideal, one suspects the reality and crossfire might be messy with no winners.

    ‘Last Man Standing’ was on the other night. At least in that town there were no civvies and nothing that didn’t improve from being shot up to serve the greed of the protagonists. The UK is not Jericho.

    I’d simply like a news estate where petty tribalism and p*ssing contests were overthrown in favour of sincere standpoints and honourable debate to make the pitch. With ‘news’ just that, denuded of ‘views’. I could care less what silly title gets hung on a person so long as what they say adds up.

    Ain’t gonna happen.

    So if the precedent has been set that you get what you pay for, and if you don’t fancy it you don’t pay, I’d like that playing field evened right now. Vast, multi-billion media monopolies are not conducive to free speech or democratic process. Any of them.

    So if one is being muzzled, all should. And I can’t think of a better way, in a capitalist system to continue to let market forces apply…. equally… no matter what political leanings opted for.

  44. 44 Derek 08/07/2011 at 3:11 pm

    For years the left, with its hold on our education system has painted those that don’t agree with them as racists, bigots etc. Even newspapers that once stood up for British values are now afraid to speak up lest it gets labelled with a phobia.

    I personally do not want to see a Fox like channel here, but someone like Douglas Murray, Daniel Hannan, and Peter Hitchens etc. can get together and bring out something rivalling Guardian and the BBC.

    I often read Standpoint magazine and the The Commentator blog, some of their output there is also centre right so maybe they have an opportunity?

  45. 45 Jaz 08/07/2011 at 3:15 pm

    If you look at the hierarchy of the Telegraph they are now pretty well all ex-Mail, starting with Gallagher and working your way down through the likes of Ben Brogan, Chris Evans and down. None of them could be described as Liberal or even liberal.

    And while Tim Montgomerie may have written for the Graun, I don’t think his politics are in doubt. Likewise I don’t think the politics of any of the people I have cited are in doubt. If you were to call Delingpole a Liberal I dare say he would punch you on the nose (actually he wouldn’t because he is too much of a big girls’ blouse… but he would probably think about it).

    Who, among the DTel staff, do you say is a closet Liberal?

    If you are asserting that the print media in this country is not overwhelmingly right of centre then I would be interested in your evidence.

  46. 46 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 4:00 pm

    Jaz, you cite the Telegraph. OK. Explain which conservative bias led them to run to Gordon Brown’s Downing St and try to tip off the press office that Guido was about to finger Damian McBride for the plan to level sexual sleaze allegations against senior Tories.

    The point I made about Montgomerie was to demonstrate that just because someone writes in a rag they don’t necessarily subscribe to its worldview.

    If you called Delingpole a ‘liberal’ he would congratulate you because he is a classical liberal and too few people don’t understand that.

    Do you know Kevin Maguire of the Mirror worked for the Telegraph? Did you know Melanie Philips was at the Guardian? Or that Gaby Hinsliff at the Observer came from the Mail?

    The point I am making is that the news media is interchangeable. They can slip seemlessly from one organ to another because the hacks are all broadly left leaning. Ask Booker if he thinks the Telegraph is a conservative paper and you are likely to be laughed at.

  47. 47 Junkk Male 08/07/2011 at 4:09 pm

    ‘If you are asserting that the print media in this country is not overwhelmingly right of centre then I would be interested in your evidence.’

    I’d tend to concur in its positioning, but recently desperation on ratings or commercial factors seems to have made it simply anti-anything that doesn’t serve the Barclay Bros’ bottom lines. Actually I can live with that if balanced and professional, but too often it was anything but.

    Which rather goes back to the degree of representation of print media in the broadcast media – which is a smidge more potent these days – being an odd one. You might have thought that, objectively, those quoted on air would reflect ABC ratings status.

    That’s just on numbers. There also seems to be a mindset or two at play…

    This was interesting, from a recent pan-screens guest: ‘I’m not for regulating the proper press, the broadsheet press. But it is insane that the tabloid press is left unregulated.’

    (This, to follow was also: )

    ‘Who, among the DTel staff, do you say is a closet Liberal?’

    Don’t know about liberal or closeted, but offhand on those I have stumbled past recently, Riddell, McTernan, Chivers & Lean seem hardly ring wing.

    Actually makes for quite a spread (it’s good to read broadly, you evidently, and refreshingly, agree), though only one in there has a brain enough to be even worth engaging with, and even then he can tie himself in knots over just such an issue as this.

    Not so sure the Graun is so well served, cross-political spectrum-wise.

    Hardly matters, as it is free to do what it wishes.

    However, out of the commentariat of the BBC, and in turn its guest list…

  48. 48 Steve 08/07/2011 at 5:00 pm

    I may be mistaken, but isnt it fashionable in British Left Wing circles nowadays to be Anti Semitic, whilst on the other hand seemingly without Irony, adopting one of the most remarkable “See No Evil, Hear No Evil” attitudes to the more undeniably Fascistic aspects of Islamism.

    The Hypocrisy is mind blowing, if these people had white skin, you would think they are the devil incarnate aka The EDL

  49. 49 Ross 08/07/2011 at 5:07 pm

    Objectivity = left-wing bias.

    Facts = left-wing bias.

    Reality = left-wing bias.

    Solution = Murdoch monopoly.

  50. 50 Junkk Male 08/07/2011 at 5:29 pm

    Objectivity = genetically built in, bar mutations

    Facts = ‘interpretation of events’

    Reality = according to the narrative

    Solution = level media playing field, transparency and true accountability

  51. 51 Junkk Male 08/07/2011 at 5:31 pm

    ps: Some might feel a £3-4Bpa media empire, spanning TV, radio online and print, is a bit of a monopoly too.

  52. 52 Mike 08/07/2011 at 6:42 pm

    Pete Bevan
    08/07/2011 at 1:50 pm
    AM I’m sorry but Fox News is dying a death in the US. Its figures have been dropping consisntely for months. As has its advertising revenue.

    Pete, are you stupid because you don’t know your facts, or are you stupid because you don’t think anyone will be able to easily find out that you’re talking nonsense?

    Fox News continues to go from strength to strength:

  53. 53 Jaz 08/07/2011 at 6:44 pm


    Since Delingpole wrote a book called “365 Ways to drive a liberal crazy” I am not entirely sure he would thank you unless he has some bizarre self-loathing.

    I was aware of the movement of staff around the papers, yes. But I think we have to separate out a few things. Let’s take Maguire. He was the industrial editor at the DTel (seems almost quaint now, doesn’t it?). So he was writing as a reporter. There is a difference even for a paper like the Telegraph (although far less so now than there used to be) between news and comment. The Mail, alas, has long since given up pretending to separate the two, but the Telegraph still tries to maintain that distinction – though it often fails.

    As far as I know the Telegraph has never, in recent history, backed any party except the Tories. I don’t think it unreasonable to describe it as pro-Tory. I think if you asked most people (but not all) they would view it in that way.

    I don’t have an answer to your question I am afraid. I don’t know enough about it.

    But let’s ignore the labels because clearly there isn’t a lot of common ground, would you agree that the majority of national newspapers in the UK are right of centre?

  54. 54 Autonomous Mind 08/07/2011 at 7:24 pm

    No Jaz. I do not believe they are.

  55. 56 Jaz 08/07/2011 at 8:12 pm

    Wow – I am really surprised. All I can suppose is that we must differ on where we think the centre lies.. Do you think the Mail is right of centre?

  56. 57 Uncle Badger 08/07/2011 at 8:25 pm

    Arguing about how many Right wing angels can dance on a Telegraph leader column is quite beside the point.

    Nothing in the print media even begins to approach the stranglehold, both regional and national, of the BBC. With liberal Left-supporting rags like the FT (yes, I did call it a rag – it is) The Observer, Independent, Guardian, and Mirror there is no shortage of coverage from a Leftist viewpoint.

    Contrast that with broadcast media, where the liberal monoculture reigns supreme – indeed, ironically, even Sky is to the Left of centre!

    The liberal Left not only owns the broadcast media in the UK, it acts as the gatekeeper, setting regulatory and commercial barriers to prevent anyone threatening what it has witnessed happen in the USA, since the growth of talk radio and Fox.

    It’s easy for ‘Hampstead thinkers’ to sit back and smugly suggest the Right starts a rival to the BBC. Just try it. You can’t even get a temporary local broadcast FM station running without jumping through hoops that the BBC would fail hourly, were it subject to the same oversight.

    The game is rigged. The liberal elite knows it and intends to keep it that way.

  57. 58 Tim.T 08/07/2011 at 10:52 pm

    Interesting article; it’s certainly made me re-evaluate current events.

    I’m reminded of a certain journalist on a radio station, TalkSport, I think it was. His only crime was to call an anti-smoking campaigner a “nazi”, and for that he was sacked. He’s been fighting that decision ever since. If that didn’t encapsulate just how totalitarian the left is, I don’t know what does. The left bulldoze your house, destroy your life, with a smile and an apology.

    Piece by piece, bit by bit, the left have utterly ruined this once great country. It’s time we fought back and addressed the balance, once and for all. If not, then as one tabloid headline famously said, will the last person to leave the country please turn out the light.

  58. 59 Junkk Male 09/07/2011 at 8:13 am

    ‘Uncle Badger
    Arguing about how many Right wing angels can dance on a Telegraph leader column is quite beside the point.’

    Indeed. As anyone in the ad world will attest, the power to persuade lies in broadcast.

    However, the ‘questions’ to keep matters elsewhere flow like honey.

    And one thing I notice more and more, even though often innocent and polite, those asking questions seem very keen to keep up the barrage and less so to answer any posed back. Well, almost…

    ‘don’t have an answer to your question I am afraid. I don’t know enough about it.’

  59. 60 Brian H 09/07/2011 at 10:12 am

    Tim.T 08/07/2011 at 10:52 pm

    Interesting article; it’s certainly made me re-evaluate current events.

    Piece by piece, bit by bit, the left have utterly ruined this once great country. It’s time we fought back and addressed the balance, once and for all. If not, then as one tabloid headline famously said, will the last person to leave the country please turn out the light.

    Accurate observation, Tim. But … if you’re going to make it again, the expression is “redressed the balance”, setting it right, based on the verb “dress”‘s meaning of properly finish.

  60. 61 Brian H 09/07/2011 at 10:15 am

    Saying “will the last one out please turn out the lights” is kind of superfluous in this case; the reason they’ll be leaving is that the lights won’t come on any more!


  61. 62 Autonomous Mind 09/07/2011 at 10:40 am

    Jaz, do you think the Mail is right of centre? It’s editor supported Labour. What does that tell you?

  62. 63 Jaz 09/07/2011 at 12:14 pm

    Let’s draw stumps then.
    If you seriously think that The Daily Mail is not right of centre then there is no point in carrying on.
    I am sorry to have troubled you.

  63. 64 Sven 09/07/2011 at 9:49 pm


  64. 65 Mingulay 10/07/2011 at 5:33 pm

    If you have ever read The Guardian you will see articles by Tory MPs, by Murdoch lovers – Kelvin Mckenzie for example. Equally in The Telegraph, a right-leaning newspaper, there are a surprising amount of articles that seriously question the present conservative-led government. This is called good journalism, as opposed to the bad-mannered, hysterical, propagandist diatribes that are aired on Fox News. Check out some of the debates on Al-Jazeera and you will appreciate that the BBC is a fairly conservative and pro-establishment institution. As for Sky News, just watch a Jeff Randall broadcast to hear a completely pro-business point of view. Over the past three decades we have seen our jobs outsourced, our businesses decimated, our wages at a standstill while our CEOs and financial marketeers are insanely enriched. This is no longer a matter of right against left but the complete obliteration of the middle and working classes in Britain and the USA. It is about the survival of the few manufacturing companies we have left. Look at Boeing, for example. Instead of investing $9 billion in designing the new 787, they “returned” it to shareholders as a stock buyback. Instead of building it in Seattle they handed all the technical know-how built up over generations to Japan to build the wings even though Japan has higher wages than the USA. So now there is a plane 3 or 4 years late beset with technical problems and with fines of between $12 and $16 billion for late delivery to airlines. The engineering skills being lost in Seattle will never be regained. Can I repeat. This is not a right-left issue. It is about the survival of our way of life, of opportunities for young people and not the greed, greed greed that leaves only devastation in its wake. In the bigger sense there is not a lot of difference between Labour and Tories in Britain; between Democrats and Republicans. The supposed differences are a massive con. Finance rules.

  65. 66 Uncle Badger 10/07/2011 at 6:07 pm

    It seems to me that there is a surprisingly large number of people unable to distinguish between Fox’s news content and its editorial.

    Even if it were the case that Fox was hopelessly biased (a pretty bizarre suggestion if one has ever sat and shaken one’s head in wonder at ABC or CNN) none of that has any bearing on the BBC stridently campaigning with Labour to prevent any challenge to its broadcasting near-monopoly.

    The worst that can be said about Sky is that it broadcasts endless US-produced trash. The worst that can be said about the BBC is that even its ‘entertainment’ programming is calculated to instil a liberal-Left mindset in its viewers and listeners.

    Murdoch made his billions by pandering to the lowest taste. The BBC made its by taxing us to broadcast cultural Marxist propaganda.

    I know which I think is the greater sin.

  66. 67 Steve 11/07/2011 at 8:25 am

    “BBC is a fairly conservative and pro-establishment institution”

    I actually watch Al Jazeera for a more balanced view of Middle Eastern & Islamic affairs, that’s how biased The BBC is.

    For a good dose of Islamo Marxist Propaganda / Brainwashing, The BBC leads the World.

    Tonight on BBC 2 we have Rageh Omaar’s latest homage to Islam.

    The BBC is Antonio Gramsci’s silent revolution brought to life via the medium of broadcasting.

  67. 68 Susan Heeney 12/07/2011 at 3:19 am

    Of course there’s no evidence it happened, save for all the evidence that it did. Oh, yes, and those various denunciations of the paper’s actions by everybody’s favorite set of commie-lib journalists otherwise known as members of Parliament from the Conservative Party.

  68. 69 mcanzacKevin Dunn 12/07/2011 at 8:05 pm

    I am a professional journalist and I agree with this article entirely

  69. 70 Kacey 11/11/2011 at 11:29 am

    I just came across this excellent article which makes a good beginning.
    As time has progressed it has become more clear that this a is a battle of the media giants.
    CNN, Avaaz,Ted Turner, George Soros, Media Standards Trust/Common Purpose, the Guardian etc. on one side; and now the orchestrated anti-Murdoch occupy protests with backing linked to some of the above shows that it is time for global control of the media, the enemies of the Murdoch family are seriously on the attack.

  70. 71 Brian H 12/11/2011 at 12:32 am

    The “hacking” is being grotesquely overblown as a crime and an issue. The real issue, as always, is power over the public mind. That’s what’s being fought for.

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