Poisoning the well

When looking at conflicts throughout history you can see a pattern of behaviour that was common to retreating armies.

They would burn anything of use, partly to deny anything of use to their enemy and partly to punish those who watched them flee in ignoble fashion.  They would also, as a matter of course, throw dead bodies and waste matter into the water supply to deny those who are chasing them away access to that which is essential for survival.  It is known as poisoning the well.

With the increase in support for those who argue Britain should leave the EU, we are witnessing the Europlastics performing the political equivalent of poisoning the well as they retreat.  Instead of throwing dead bodies and filth into the well, they are throwing the toxic, fairytale ‘option’ of renegotiating the terms of EU membership into the debate to poison it. This is the way in which they will perpetrate their next great con on the British public, by persuading them to vote for an impossible option, thus ensuring that the debate is killed stone dead and Britain stays firmly inside the corrupt and anti democratic EU.

Renegotiation is not an option.  It is not permissible.  Its very presence in the debate is a deliberate and cynical deception.  It is the poison in the well.

The Europlastics and their useful idiots in the media are focusing all their energies and column inches on renegotiation being what the majority of voters really want, not withdrawal.  For the EEC referendum deception in 1975 read the national referendum on EU membership debate in 2011.  The public was conned about the EEC being nothing more than a free trade area then; the public is being conned that renegotiation of EU membership can be conducted now.

How many voters would say in polls that they want renegotiation if they understood that it is an impossibility?  Renegotiation is a myth and when viewed in its proper context it appears in lists such as this:

  • Father Christmas
  • Easter Bunny
  • Renegotiation of EU membership
  • The Tooth Fairy

Lies characterised the pro-EEC argument in 1975, and they resulted in the situation in which we find ourselves today.  Lies are characterising the renegotiation argument today, and if allowed to continue they will result in Britain being permanently bound as a province of the European Union.

It is time to defend the well and counter the Europlastic lies.

13 Responses to “Poisoning the well”

  1. 1 Sovereignty Research (@Sov_Res) 23/10/2011 at 11:14 am

    Moreover if renegotiation was remotely possible we would have carried it out a hundred times already, political history shows us its a bogus fallacy.

  2. 2 OF 23/10/2011 at 11:14 am

    The 1975 referendum was after a renegotiation. Wilson said beforehand that “I believe that our renegotiation objectives have been substantially though not completely achieved”. And so the people voted yes because they thought preferential terms had been arranged. Ho ho ho.

    The third option this time round is the same trick – except the “renegotiation” happens post- not pre-vote.

    Does anyone know how option C got to be in the proposal?

    (I remain anti-referendum, for these reasons and more:



    http://tinyurl.com/433h459 )

  3. 3 Agincourt 23/10/2011 at 11:27 am

    I suspect there’s another “secret” too lurking around – one that relates to Greece & Portugal’s likely defaults (& perhaps Ireland’s too, if its proverbial luck finally runs out). Default from the euro was never conceived of in the Maastricht & later treaties dealing with the EDU (European (Dis)Union. So if (& surely ‘when’) they actually do default, surely those people anywhere who lose out financially because of these defaults would have a case before the ECJ for full redress – though Greece certainly, & probably Portugal too, wouldn’t have a cat-in-hell’s chance of paying any successful plaintiffs off for years yet.

    It therefore seems to me that to make eurozone bankruptcies possible, there needs to be another EDU treaty change. Am I right? If so, it’s funny how we haven’t heard this discussed at all yet. Does this mean that the euro-zone’s members are still resisteing the inevitable?

  4. 4 Pat 23/10/2011 at 1:51 pm

    Even if re-negotiation is a possibility- a no vote from a referendum would strengthen our negotiators hands. Otherwise they have little to bargian with.

  5. 5 John Payne 23/10/2011 at 3:37 pm

    I agree with this article but not using words such as ‘Europlastics’, as this term dilutes the real culprits who are Policical party elites and corrupt Whitehall civil servants who really run this Country and manipulate weak politicians.

  6. 6 Peter S 23/10/2011 at 5:48 pm

    Britain can no more re-negotiate its relationship to the EU than a prisoner can its relationship to its captor. Unlike a prisoner though, Britain is free to walk away from its gaol and make its own way in the world. It declines this option because cretinous traitors have long since been insisting dependency is preferable to independency.

    Although re-negotiation is impossible, negotiation is. But it requires Britain to leave the EU before it can even begin. Negotiation should ALWAYS be held as the means to meeting Britain’s interests. But it should also be made clear that negotiation, unlike collusion, can ONLY take place between two equally free and independent parties.

    Cameron and his poisonous political cronies are incapable of negotiation because they crave the manacles of Britain’s dependency on the EU. We have invalids – born of a socialist dependency culture – in positions of power in Britain. Nothing can change until they are gone.

  7. 7 Brian H 23/10/2011 at 9:44 pm

    I think you reversed these dates:
    “For the EEC referendum deception in 1975 read the national referendum on EU membership debate in 2011.”

  8. 8 right_writes 24/10/2011 at 6:46 am

    Perhaps those that want to get us out of the EU can also do a bit of “well poisoning” too…

    Making Cameron look even more of a dick than he already is, by acting in the way he is (3 line whip, renegotiation option in the faux referendum proposal) will cause his CONDEMolition to crack.

    There is no way that the real anti-EU MP’s and the faux plastics are going to score a win in this debate, but they may well cause a lot of instability, it may be impossible for him to maintain a majority on any other matter. I don’t think that the rump of LibDimmery is particularly pleased at the way this arrangement is working.

    Couple this with the presidents’ of the council and the commission determination to invoke full economic government through this “beneficial crisis”, and we may have a real chance to kick the rotting corpse into the lime pit.

  9. 9 Black Swan 24/10/2011 at 7:44 am

    Whatever the issue with the EU, we are always left with the paradox: why is our political elite, & especially its leadership so loyal to the EU, & so disloyal to their fellow-citizens in the UK? Earlier I suspected that the EU had a very damaging personal file on anyone of real political significance in Britain, & would remind our successive PMs & Foreign Ministers etc of this – & of all the personal dirt the file contained on each individual – whenever an-EU critcal moment occurred.

    But if this is so, you would have thought these politicians’ level of co-operation would be resentful & be-grudging at best. Yet recent British PMs have colluded with the EU against their fellow Britons’ interests with apparent enthusiasm, as evidenced by Cameron’s 3-line whip over Parliament’s current EU debate. So it must be something else than blackmail.

    In that case, maybe a secret bank account somewhere? If so, probably somewhere that would be easily accessible without creating much suspicion. So not the Caymans, Bermuda, or Liechtenstein then. Nor the Channel Islands, Isle of Man, or Gibraltar – they’re too close, & so one might talk! No – probably Switzerland or New York, where a British PM could go to without drawing too much attention to himself in the process.

    Could this be so? Could be – as money & treason frequently go hand-in-hand!

  10. 10 John Payne 24/10/2011 at 11:13 am

    Secret bank accounts… right on the nail Black Swan. However, do not rule out MP’s going all the way back to Edward Heath who did very well, and senior civil servants.

    Where can the money be? All the places you mention but at the top of my list is the Dominican Republic. I have seen the grand houses out there and the locals tell me ‘Those European politicians’ own many.

    Another thing to keep in mind is the number of years the EU has not had it’s balance sheets signed off, because accountants do not know where the money has gone.

    One other ‘snippet’ not many people are aware that the Dominican Republic is included in the EU Development fund. Nice and easy to transfer money without raising eyebrows.

  11. 11 StrongUnitedKingdom 24/10/2011 at 2:57 pm

    Dear AM,

    An excellent, accurate article up to the point where you touched on the area of :

    “Renegotiation is a myth and when viewed in its proper context it appears in lists such as this:

    •Father Christmas
    •Easter Bunny
    •Renegotiation of EU membership
    •The Tooth Fairy”

    This is incorrect, the EU does not sit in the same category. Father Chrismas appears and delivers goodwill and material benefit(I have the sack, redcoat, beard and receipts to prove it.) The Easter Bunny delivers joy, happiness and some hardcore chocolate. The Tooth Fairy rewards children who look after their teeth with hard currency that can be saved or spend according to the recipient’s own free will.

    The EU does not deliver goodwill, material benefit, happiness, reward for conscientiousness, the chance to exercise freewill or chocolate. I therefore request that you apologise for the slur on the good name of these characters, all of whom serve a real, positive purpose, the exact opposite of the EU.

    The EU sits in an unnatural world of fantasy without easy parallel or comparison. Nothing in the natural World is so useless and toxic. It is more like a massive oil spill: Unsightly, damaging, expensive, wasteful, poisionous, tedious but still it has to be dealt with.

    For and on behalf of,

    Santa, Bugs, Tinkerbell and the UK.

  12. 12 Brian H 25/10/2011 at 6:57 am

    Black Swan;
    No, I think it’s the same illusion that keeps all useful idiots on board till (their) bitter end (post-victory): the promise of elevated status and power in the New World Order. Great Britain, however Great, cannot be as Great as Greater Europe, they have been persuaded.

    That the ramshackle machine will chew and expectorate them as an early order of business will, as always, come as a terrible belated shock.

  13. 13 Jonathan Stuart-Brown 26/10/2011 at 7:21 pm

    Exacellent article.
    But you did miss one trick.
    Re-negotiation is possible if our leaders plead with the EU to make us a special case…to please let us surrender our self-governing powers even faster than the other EU members !
    I think this re-negotiation might be accepted.

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