Something vexes thee, Phil?

From the Climategate 2.0 emails, it is astonishing how hung up Phil Jones (I refuse to use his title, he makes a mockery of that) is on an apparent catch all excuse not to provide information in response to FOI requests.

His get out clause of describing perfectly reasonable FOI requests as vexatious, and seeking justification for applying the ‘vexatious’ tag to other requests clearly demonstrate anti scientific practice.  Some people would draw the conclusion that Jones and his ilk had something to hide (other than a decline), but we already know that is the case.  Worried that his ‘findings’ would be deconstructed under review and scrutiny, Jones and others in his circle simply decided to withhold data and method.

When public money is used to generate ‘findings’ that have huge ramifications for public policy, those findings must be open and accessible to all and tested rigorously, else they must be ignored by government. But as we have seen, government (Department for Energy and Climate Change) is in on this with the spiteful little weasel and his UEA and Penn State chums, pressing the scientists to deliver what the politicians want to hear so they can impose regulations and taxes on us to fit their wider agenda.

That is what is truly vexatious.

15 Responses to “Something vexes thee, Phil?”

  1. 1 tux1952 29/11/2011 at 7:55 am

    I get the impression that Jones is the weak link in all this, as demonstrated by his performance in front of the S&T Committee.
    Break him and the whole edifice will start to crumble.

  2. 2 Inanimate Carbon Rod 29/11/2011 at 8:51 am

    Having worked in Universities for a good few years what amazes me about this story is that a Professor and head of group is handling FOI requests. The procedure everywhere else I have seen is for the research groups secretary to handle this sort of thing with the work then being passed down to the most junior researcher or post graduate if data needs to be extracted or processed. These days the role of the Professor is to act almost as a salesman for the research group flying around the world presenting at conferences and trying to attract more work. The day to day running of the group is left to the team under him. The fact this one is sat in his office approving each and every FOI request is a little unusual.

  3. 3 The Gray Monk 29/11/2011 at 9:09 am

    I wonder how big the “carbon” footprint is for the 11,000 AGW worshippers gathering in Durban? Just thinking about it, we will have all the airmiles, all the taxi rides, all the tour trips, the airconditioners working flat out …

    And not a wind turbine in sight!

  4. 4 meltemian 29/11/2011 at 9:20 am

    I must admit I missed this although I expect everyone else here saw it.
    It seems pertinent. h/t Scud.

  5. 5 jameshigham 29/11/2011 at 3:35 pm

    What gets me is that they just keep on and on and on with it.

  6. 6 cosmic 29/11/2011 at 7:09 pm

    “pressing the scientists to deliver what the politicians want to hear so they can impose regulations and taxes on us to fit their wider agenda.”

    That’s the crux of it. If the political establishment hadn’t wanted to hear this, Jones’ findings would have been carefully examined and he wouldn’t have gotten away with obscure data sources to produce a database synthesised God knows how, and analysed by methods which were not revealed. He was providing an apparently authoritative basis for policies which there was a desire to enact and there is no desire to back away from.

  7. 7 Faustiesblog 29/11/2011 at 8:50 pm

    Black’s Law Dictionary defines “vexatious” thusly:

    A proceeding is said to be vexatious when the party bringing it is uot acting bona fide, and merely wishes to annoy or embarrass his opponent, or when it is not calculated to lead to any practical result. Such a proceeding is often described as “frivolous and vexatious,” and the court may stay it on that ground. Sweet.

    Our Phil is undoubtedly schooled in the law, to some degree.

  8. 8 Autonomous Mind 30/11/2011 at 6:52 am

    Where it falls down for our Phil is that the information requested would lead to a practical result, either by validating what he says or producing findings that contradict it. Fear of being proved incorrect is not grounds for dismissing a request as vexatious.

  9. 9 mfosdb 30/11/2011 at 10:12 am

    As Tom Wigley said to Keith Briffa in 2006:

    “Why don’t you just give these people the raw data?
    Are you hiding something — your apparent refusal to be forthcoming sure
    makes it look as though you are.”

  10. 10 Faustiesblog 30/11/2011 at 5:28 pm

    I agree, AM. Nevertheless, he is seeking to cover himself, I believe.

  11. 11 AJC 30/11/2011 at 7:14 pm

    It appears that CRU/UEA would be under no obligation to search for e-mails later requested under FOI legislation if said e-mails had been deleted by the recipient even if they were known (anticipated) to reside within central backups.

  12. 12 Andy Baxter 30/11/2011 at 7:34 pm

    What I find particualrly gratifying is the obvious ‘can’t be arsed’ attitude of the majority of the populace NOW to AGW ‘global warming’ and its rebranding as climate change, informed and educated by all the guys/gals (can’t be sexist now) like AM and others who have done sterling work in exposing the fake pseudo science and political dogma for what it really is…just hot air (pun intended)

    For me personally I delight in meeting friends, acquaintances and collegues now who were once sucked into the vortex of this scaremongering and wholeheartedly believed every word ever uttered or written about it and were convinced it was doomsday and the end of the world, some of whom (who can’t look me in the eye now) and who became almost zealous in their condemnation of me when I just would not submit to the dogma and depsite reasoned attempts to educate them, personally attacked me for holding heretic beliefs….how satisfying now (and although I’m so tempted to gloat I resist the temptation) to meet them now and just give them a knowing smile when the conversation as it inevitably does with us British come round to the weather! it gives me such a warm ‘global warming’ glow inside!

    Their religion, their raison d’etre is falling apart and if only we could galvanise more MSM and public opinion attacking the folly of politicians and their deliberately stupid adherence to this nonsense and the misery it causes on fuel poverty and such (and its starting to trickle through I think) then we will have made real progess and effected change for the better…

    So I raise my glass and salute AM and all the others however small their contribution on blogs, or comments therein who have kept the faith of intellect, reason and common sense and based their opinions and principles on such, backed by empirical evidence…extracted with such effort from the warmist community.


    However we must be vigialnt, and we must not rest, for we are dealing with bigoted prejudiced zealots, until the day The Climate Change Act is repealed and all who advocat its folly are removed from office.

  13. 13 cosmic 01/12/2011 at 2:57 pm

    Andy Baxter,

    “…. until the day The Climate Change Act is repealed and all who advocat its folly are removed from office.”

    The problem is it isn’t a matter of removing a few zealots from office. The way this has spread it’s roots is alarming.

    Have a look at what’s come out of the Climategate 2.0 emails on Bishop Hill, for instance,

    and the links between the Team and the BBC.

    Then have a look at the directorship of the Met Office and their activist links.

    It goes on. This thing has corrupted the body politic.

  14. 14 suedenimon 01/12/2011 at 5:13 pm

    How much longer can this run…there have been too many exposures for any climate warming theory still to stand up to scrutiny, these so called scientists need to be run out of town on the proverbial rail!

  15. 15 Andy Baxter 01/12/2011 at 10:03 pm

    good point Cosmic, but the Climate Change Act compels our Government to continue the folly, th body politic can be taken apart piece by piece as it is now…the repeal of this Act would be a milestone…

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