Winters are colder because it’s getting warmer

And so the game goes on.  The useful idiots (and hard core activists) of the cult of sustainability continue to create new arguments at public expense to justify a political ‘solution’.

The subtle and blatant distortion of the facts in the article aren’t important, but they will keep opponents of the anti-science global warmists occupied for days or even months. And while they might win another battle against the warmist using proper scientific method, they are unwittingly still losing the war because behind the scenes the real agenda continues its advance.

This claim from Richard ‘Black is White’ is faithfully carried in support of the ’cause’ yet if it is ever falsified by other scientists the new research will be ignored, omitted from the record, buried – instead a new claim requiring the same political solution will rise to take its place in the narrative and the incessant march towards global government on the basis of controlling spending to fix a problem that isn’t really a problem, will continue.

18 Responses to “Winters are colder because it’s getting warmer”


  1. 1 Martin Brumby 28/02/2012 at 6:55 am

    “yet if it is ever falsified by other scientists the new research will be ignored, omitted from the record, buried…”

    Only occasionally.

    After complete demolition and demonstration that the whole basis for both the Hockey Stick and the Stern Report is incompetent and fraudulent, both not only still have their enthusiastic defenders but are STILL trotted out regularly without even a blush.

    Not just anti-science. Zombie anti-science. And whilst ever they receive their fat pay check (and the occasional jolly to Rio or Tahiti) it isn’t going to change.

    A measure of how brazen they are is the continued erection of bird shredding whirligigs. I’m guessing that an actual majority of people are now aware that they are useless – a glance at them standing idle in cold weather is a good clue – although few people realise HOW useless and how expensive.

    Although more and more rats are quietly jumping overboard, Zombie anti-science will carry on.

    Until people shiver in the dark…..

  2. 2 ProgContra 28/02/2012 at 7:23 am

    Weather is consistent with climate change…

    http://progcontra.blogspot.com/2011/09/weather-is-consistent-with-climate.html

    Yet again we have the odious Richard Black digging through the news looking for stories that sell the message, but ignoring inconvenient results – like the recent paper documenting the lack of glacier loss in the Himalayas.

  3. 3 Mark Wadsworth 28/02/2012 at 7:41 am

    Well it has snowed quite a lot for three successive winters, and it is caused by wind from the east.

    I sorely doubt whether this has anything to do with melting ice, because the ice isn’t particularly melting, but I’d be interested to know if there is a reason.

  4. 4 Climate Change Con....... 28/02/2012 at 7:44 am

    Dr Syun Ichi Akasofu founding Director and Professor of Physics, Emeritus, of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks from its establishment in 1998 until January of 2007. Dr Akasofu has published more than 550 professional journal articles.

    http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~sakasofu/

    Dr Akasofu, in his peer reviewed work has evidenced that recent Arctic warming is entirely consistent with what would be expected of the earth’s recovery from the Little Ice Age

    Here are two of his papers :

    http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~sakasofu/pdf/two_natural_components_recent_climate_change.pdf

    “it is shown that the Earth has been warming from about 1800–1850 to 2000 at approximately the same rate, so that there is no definitive proof that “most” of the warming after 1975 is due to a manmade greenhouse effect (Figure 2b). This is simply their hypothesis. It is well known that CO2 molecules can cause the greenhouse effect and that its amount in the atmosphere is increasing, so it is natural to hypothesize that CO2 is one of the causes of the warming trend. However, it is not appropriate to conclude a priori that the 0.6°C rise is mostly due to human causes without carefully subtracting the contributions of natural changes. Natural causes are almost ignored in the IPCC study except for some obvious causes (e.g., solar changes and volcano effects). The results presented in this paper show that natural changes are substantial and, further, that there is nothing unusual about the present temperature rise.”

    And also a further paper here :

    http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=3217&JournalID=69#abstract

  5. 5 barry laughton (@kilkeal) 28/02/2012 at 7:46 am

    Never let the data get in the way of a well loved theory.

  6. 6 Katabasis 28/02/2012 at 8:34 am

    I seem to remember the Moonbat proposing this very theory during the awful winter we had two years ago.

    Then as now these clueless morons fail to realise that even if the mechanism they are describing is correct then they have identified a major negative feedback in the climate system – so nothing to worry about.

    Going large on this now on the BBC also seems odd given that we have just had a relatively mild winter this year.

  7. 7 Clarence 28/02/2012 at 8:58 am

    (As posted on EU Ref)

    Anyone fancy a game of digital bucking bronco? See how long your comment can stay on this board before it’s thrown off. Doors open at 3.45pm today (Tues):

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/feb/27/michael-mann-climate-change-live-q-and-a

  8. 8 Brian H 28/02/2012 at 9:32 am

    “Katabasis 28/02/2012 at 8:34 am

    Then as now these clueless morons fail to realise that even if the mechanism they are describing is correct then they have identified a major negative feedback in the climate system – so nothing to worry about.

    You might be interested in popesclimatetheory.com . His thesis is that the negative feedback of Arctic ice (covering/exposing the Arctic Ocean, thus regulating evaporation and subsequent snowfall) is the dominant “governor” keeping our current interglacial within such unusually narrow bounds.

  9. 9 cosmic 28/02/2012 at 11:38 am

    Some of the myths keep bobbing up such as The Hockey Stick and some such as the drowning Seychelles and drowning polar bears have disappeared.

    One of the more persistent ones is “97% of all scientists agree with CAGW”.

    It turns out to be 97% of a selected 79 agreeing with two badly phrased questions.

    CAGW has created non-jobs, scams and taxes. It won’t be let go of without a fight and an attempt to justify all these wizard wheezes on some other grounds. Energy security and sustainability are two likely candidates.

  10. 10 AJC 28/02/2012 at 12:52 pm

    Behind the paywall (Times) we have an article part of which is about David Willetts’ recent trip to Antarctica. The picture caption reads …

    “David Willetts went to the Antarctic to see the effects of climate change”

    The article …

    Rachel Sylvester and Alice Thomson – February 25 2012
    “Moving on and up is very hard — and feminism is partly to blame”
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3331453.ece

    … includes these gems …

    “In sub-zero conditions, he saw penguins and seals as he flew over melting glaciers to witness the impact of global warming. “It was completely beautiful,” he says.”

    No Polar Bears then David?

    “There is no doubt in his mind that climate change is a genuine danger. “When the pilot shows you a map of an ice shelf from 30 years ago and points out how it has changed, and a scientist says the place where he set up camp 30 years ago is now in open water, there is something real happening.””

    So Gamma- in Glaciology for David.

    “The man nicknamed “Two Brains” is proud that it was British scientists who discovered the hole in the ozone layer, using “a few stubby pencils” rather than sophisticated computers. ”

    Isn’t it time for the discovery of 20,000 year old Australian Aboriginal Rock Art depicting a giant berg off Tasmania? Is anyone looking?

  11. 12 NickM 28/02/2012 at 11:06 pm

    From the Independent 20th march 2000: “According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

    “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.” ( Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past ).

  12. 13 Gil 29/02/2012 at 7:58 am

    Since when is the Sun variable and since when did volcanoes cause warming events? Volcanic emissions help to cause global cooling and caused a “year without a summer” in the 19th century. The planet’s being warming for a few centuries now? That sounds about right with the increasing human population and the Industrial Revolution.

  13. 14 Steve 29/02/2012 at 12:50 pm

    While you may argue that the BBC has carried the story because it supports a particular alleged consensus meme, what you have perhaps missed is that the second author on the paper referenced by this report is Dr Judith Curry – a vocal anti-IPCC-consensus commentator.

  14. 15 Delphius 29/02/2012 at 7:57 pm

    AM, if you haven’t noticed it, I sense a paradigm shift in the trend of the BBC’s output. Its not so long ago that a report like this would have rammed the AGW message home loud and clear with several references to it.

    Instead we have just one paragraph related to how man made CO2 might skew the natural pattern of global climate cycles.

    When natural cycles and the effects of the Sun on global climate are given more emphasis than warmist dogma, I just wonder if we’re seeing the tide finally turning.

    I’ve seen more emphasis given to Chinese (no friends of the AGW cult) climate research now too, which is interesting.

  15. 16 Rich 02/03/2012 at 3:33 pm

    “The picture is further complicated by the involvement of the Arctic Oscillation, a natural variation of air pressure that also changes northern weather. “This is very early days for this research”
    The oscillation is not understood well enough to predict – and even if it were, any pattern it has may be changing due to escalating greenhouse gas concentrations.”

    WTF? Did any thought take place before he said that?

  16. 17 napiersabre 03/03/2012 at 1:07 pm

    I have followed this barmy demonising of CO2 from the start. I’m not a scientist, but an engineer, so I feel able to analyse the results of the peer review papers other than where the conclusions are buried in obscure statistics, as with the hockey stick, or obscure physics, as with the feedback theory that supports the greenhouse effect.

    I’m with AM 100%. AGW is not about science as none of it stands up. It started with Politics and has continued that way. I myself was naive enough to think it was about science until about 5 years ago when I started asking searching questions of my MP. For my efforts I was called “barmy” by one and a denier by another, from which I was able to elicit an apology.

    The scientific arguments have been a necessary way of engaging more and more of the general public. The apathy that the public demonstrated towards politics in the late 90’s and 00’s was exactly the environment the control freaks in power wanted. They got away with murder – literally with some of the policies they enacted. And to keep us occupied we had cheap money that allowed the thoughtless to buy BMW’s, have flyaway hotel accommodated summer holidays and skiing winter holidays every year. This was state scale bribery built on the back of crony capitalism and failed financial models, that enriched the already well off at the expense of everyone else. Its has been reverse redistribution of wealth made to look like the west paying to improve the third world.

    What has changed today is the money has run out. And the situation is far worse than is being made out. Kicking the can down the road does not even come close to describing the damage these idiots are doing by not taking what many describe as the only sensible course of action now. This is driving more and more of the public to question the idiocy of AGW the EU and other ludicrous world government projects.

    AM I think you need to climb a little higher? We are winning the little science skirmishes, and yes they are marching further into our territory. But they are blinded by their own bull sh1t, (their recon is now failing) so don’t recognise that they have passed a point of no return and the demise of the Euro followed by the EU has been set in stone. As with a real war, it is often only with the benefit of hindsight that we recognise many of the turning points. We will suffer many setbacks along the way, but I think the die has been cast.

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