So what are we going to do about it?

Perhaps the Failygraph has some uses.  On Monday it devoted space for a common sense op-ed by Fritz Vahrenholt, formerly an active supporter of the IPCC and its CO2 theory, who now declares himself ‘not convinced that humanity is causing catastrophic global warming’.

While the ground Vahrenholt covers will not be new to readers of this blog, EU Referendum, Watts Up With That, and numerous other sites, it does at least provide for some incisive comments which add some value to the debate.  Standing out among these was this contribution:

This is the challenge the world faces.

The whole climate change industry is grounded in politics, not science.  Leading sites such as Watts Up With That and Bishop Hill continue to produce some excellent content, but to no real end because they are attempting to challenge a political endeavour masquerading as science, with science.  The only way to tackle the political and corporate vested interest agenda is politically.  Engaging the opposition on its faux ground of science simply diverts attention from the real activity that needs to be stopped.

As Tayles says in his comment, ‘they aren’t about to give up the fight that easily’.  He/she is spot on.  The justification for political and corporate actions will simply morph into something else.  Global warming will make way for another imminent threat that, surprise surprise, will also just happen to require solutions necessitating centralised political control beyond democratic accountability and structures, wealth transfer, higher energy and bills, rationing of essentials such as water and power, vast sums of taxpayer money gifted in ‘subsidy’ for lucrative mitigation activities, and so on.

Given this the only question that remains is, what are we going to do about it?

13 Responses to “So what are we going to do about it?”

  1. 1 Martin Brumby 20/06/2012 at 7:25 am

    I really could not agree more.

    And even when the “science” has been comprehensively rubbished, they still keep trotting out with the same (e.g. the Hockey Stick).

    So the ‘enemy’ isn’t the likes of the dishonest and incompetent Prof Phil Jones or Michael “Meltdown” Mann – they are just the politicians’ stooges.

    The real enemy is the team in Westminster, Brussels, Berlin, Washington…..

  2. 2 Andy Baxter 20/06/2012 at 8:15 am

    good question AM;

    For me it starts on July 14th in Harrogate, courtesy of EURef

    good to see you back….

  3. 3 Barry Sheridan 20/06/2012 at 11:25 am

    The solution will have to wait for the electorate to face up to the full consequences of this political lunacy. Although initially this will not change much other than create even greater dissatisfaction with the political classes than exists already. Eventually however the resentments will spill out into violence, which alas is the usual mechanism for change from out of touch elites. Unfortunately that a result few really like!

  4. 4 Matt C. 20/06/2012 at 1:19 pm

    Doubly depressing is that the vast majority of the media are also in league with these devils which restricts further the ability to get any kind of alternative viewpoint out ‘there’.

    Or at least to get any kind of alternative viewpoint out there which isn’t condescendingly listened to – under the guise of “balance” – and then later scorned, or dismissed as the views of a lunatic fringe minority.

    This then leaves the people who hold these views too scared to voice them anywhere for fear of being ridiculed, or marginalised. So, with seemingly no opposition, an unprincipled and clueless Prime Minister, leading an insecure government with no convictions or courage, can bring in nonsensical ill-thought out legislation to keep those who shout loudest, happy.

    Worst of all, these policies (those which aren’t immediately subjected to mighty u-turns the minute someone complains) always result in the same outcome: Reductions in liberty, and increased cost. This is handy for the politicians, because both of these in turn require more spending and bigger government.

    It sometimes feels like a bloody revolution may be the only way to have the clear-out we so desperately need.

  5. 5 Tom Kiser 20/06/2012 at 2:35 pm

    An important point that should never be disregarded or minimized: When governments collect more taxes and borrow more money and print more money and spend more the already wealthy–those who already have enough that they have bought and paid for our political class in all countries–will, almost inadvertantly and without further effort, acquire and be able to accrue greater wealth.

    When governments grow more numerous and then grow larger the rich get richer.

  6. 6 Brian H 21/06/2012 at 1:06 pm

    I could agree more, because I don’t entirely. Not engaging on the science is not an option; it cedes the war by default. It is necessary, the wamista/bureaucrat cabals and opportunistic pols have seen to that. Their glib rationales and justifications must be demolished. But you are right that it is not sufficient.

    This is why I have only a little patience for those sceptical critics and bloggers who want to stick to their knitting and chop logic and statistics and data sets with The Enemy. While it is not necessary to depict the political underpinnings of every claim or initiative, it is dangerously naive to try to exclude such from the conversation. When talking about, e.g., Rio+20 the conflation is stark and must be addressed head-on.

    To judge by the (low and loud) quality and large quantity of his enemies, perhaps Monckton has the emphasis about right.

  7. 7 Brian H 21/06/2012 at 1:07 pm

    P.S. You might enjoy and find much to cite or ponder in this write-up from the American POV on Sultan Knish:

  8. 8 Robert of Ottawa 23/06/2012 at 12:33 am

    Assess the availability of lamposts?

  9. 9 Robert of Ottawa 23/06/2012 at 12:44 am

    I agree with Brian H in that it IS necessary to engage the Warmistas on the scientific battlefield. However, battles can be won or lost and the war still lost (or won).

    We must engage the Warmistas not only on the scientific battlefields; but also on the political and philosophical battlegrounds … equivalent to the traditional tactical, strategical and ideological arenas.

    Remember your enemy, the Platonic Guardian, those who know better how us peons should live, and dictate to us how and what we are allowed to do through their superior wisdom? This tendency in Western Civilization goes back 2,500 years. They are today Watermelons, Green outside, Red inside. They are the Warmistas.

    The Warmistas are the modern equivalent of Plato’s Guardians.

  10. 10 george 23/06/2012 at 11:06 am

    Bishop Hill etc are just navel gazers for a small clever minority and don’t register at all at a national level. Although I agree with what they say it’s a pity that they never look at the bigger picture.
    I think that they believe that our leaders are genuinely caring and wouldn’t harm us deliberately. The leaders just need shown the right road and all will be well. Aye right.
    If they just looked up at the sky on most days and see it covered in chemtrails they would have to accept that they were deceiving themselves. But you can’t mention chemtrails because they are terrified of being labelled ‘conspiracy theory’ sites.
    So they will go on looking down their noses at such things as chemtrails and debate the merits of angels dancing on a pinhead..

  11. 11 Lookatthe sky 24/06/2012 at 11:05 pm

    Yeah. TPTB will be as happy as Larry that the skeptic profs hit away at Phil Jones, Mann , Harriban, Black et al. Hit the man not the ball you idiots.
    Heck they have millions of global warming scammers being primed, as we speak, from age 5 to 50 ready to fill their graves.
    All paid for via the £4bn BBC tv tax , £500Bn EU tax and £100Bn UN tax.
    Money is no object to them.
    And they will dance on the Bishops grave.

  12. 12 james higham 25/06/2012 at 8:16 pm

    They aren’t going to give up the fight easily for two reasons:

    1. vested interest;
    2. genuine belief it is so and unwillingness to look at the other argument and stats.

    That can never be cured.

  13. 13 Moggsy 26/06/2012 at 8:13 am

    “Expect plenty of lying and obfuscating in the future” Absolutely, why expect them to change their behaviour?

    Especially when the media basically repeat their claims with out engaging their brains. Comes from relying on an autocue maybe?

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