So Farage wasn’t clear on Isle of Man ‘offshore’ status yesterday?

On Channel 4 News, yesterday, 21 June 2013, Nigel Farage feigned ignorance about whether the Isle of Man is actually offshore, declaring:

Well, it is difficult to define whether it is off-shore or not.

How odd.  It was all so clear to him on 21 May 2013 when he spoke in the European Parliament about legal tax avoidance and how EU employees manage to pay next to no tax at all due to the frauds allowed by the EU.  He made clear the distinction (from around 25 seconds in on the clip below) between the UK and the entities of the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and the Cayman Islands as he spoke of the wedge being driven between them in regard to taxation policies.

Perhaps when he was talking to Michael Crick, Farage was suffering from some form of amnesia.

No doubt he has one of those ‘cheeky chappie’ explanations that will make it all clear.

16 Responses to “So Farage wasn’t clear on Isle of Man ‘offshore’ status yesterday?”

  1. 1 Odeston 22/06/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Nigel Farage has built a party with the vital and ultimate aim of removing our country from the corrupt, rapacious and rebarbative European Union. Our successful future is wholly dependent upon that proposition.

    It is disturbing and regretful to read of Richard North’s gleeful appetite for Farage’s downfall. Remember, Farage has produced a real active entity – whereas North has produced nothing but sesquipedalian diatribes promoting, inter alia, a nebulous concept he calls the Harrogate Agenda: that has been nowhere and is unlikely to go anywhere.
    The whole European project will have imploded before Richard North’s impracticable constructs fructify.

    Clearly Nigel Farage is now out of his depth and needs a strong team around him with which he must coalesce and share leadership, building a much more solid foundation; and there is still time to do that.

    Do not forget UKIP is the only party that can regain our country’s independence or even wants our independence reinstated. We need to keep that big picture in mind at all times.

  2. 2 Richard North 22/06/2013 at 3:30 pm

    Nigel Farage did not build the party … it was built on the back of the incredibly hard work of hundreds of people who laid the foundations for its ultimate success … only to haver it hijacked by Farage and his claque.

    That, of course, means we have UKIP as a half-completed construct, lacking entirely the intellectual dimensions that are vitally necessary for the success of any polical movement.

    But that leaves you, the anonymous Mr Odeston, to make your snide remarks from the edges, bolstered by your monumental ignorance, without you offering any evidence of having achieved anthing ay all.

  3. 3 Autonomous Mind 22/06/2013 at 3:46 pm

    Odeston, I have spoken with Richard and I can assure you he is anything but gleeful about the position Farage has put himself in.

    Richard isn’t taking any joy in what is unfolding. As he explained to me, this has the capacity to undermine the Eurosceptics and undo the hard work of many people in UKIP.

    Clearly Odeston you don’t read the other comments, or they don’t sink in. If you did, you would know that the chance of building a strong team around Farage is a non-starter. Farage does not like smart people around him because he sees them as a threat. There have been so many talented and capable people in UKIP, so ask yourself why they aren’t there now and why the party is so utterly reliant on Farage at the helm. It isn’t by accident, it’s by design.

    The party deserves better. There is still time for the party to move forward with a proper leader before any the general election and any referendum.

  4. 4 Paul Perrin (@pperrin) 22/06/2013 at 7:09 pm

    If anyone is criticising Nigel as leader, then they only have themselves to blame for not running (and winning) against him… He isn’t leader by right, he was elected.

    Put yourselves forwards next time or shut up – how about that for a deal?

  5. 5 Richard North 22/06/2013 at 7:29 pm

    Paul Perrin: Anyone who watched Farage dispossess first Alan Sked and then Michael Holmes, who saw him stitch up Kilroy and then take the leadership of the party, will readily attest to his low cunning, when it comes to internal politics. In terms of backstabbing, he puts Brutus and his mates to shame.

    But, because Farage can exercise such finely homes sociopathic skills and rig contests to see off challengers, does not support an argument he should be immune from criticism. A better deal, therefore, might be for you to stop drooling over your cult leader, and grow up.

  6. 6 Autonomous Mind 22/06/2013 at 7:37 pm

    Paul, you’re talking out of your arse. Fine, if you don’t want to accept or take on board what I have said and what Richard has added to it here, perhaps you would like the insights of a former member of the UKIP National Executive Committee. This is what happens when people inside UKIP challenge the Farage view or consider having someone run against him…

    Farage is now finding electoral success comes at a price. David, Del and I saw this coming 4 years ago and wanted a clean party to avoid giving LibLabCon a soft target. For our concerns we were all voted off the NEC by the Farage cabal and Del was kicked out of UKIP on a completely false allegation by Nuttall. LibLabCon now have an easy target and will keep at it if only to distract the electorate from their own many failings.

    Full post by Eric Edmonds over on his blog. But be assured there are many more examples of similar from many other former high ranking UKIP members. If you still can’t accept it, more fool you.

  7. 7 Paul Perrin (@pperrin) 22/06/2013 at 7:42 pm

    Can you point to something ‘sycophantic’ I have said about Farage? I think not, Assuming your detractors are automatically lovers of your opponents it rather lazy and pathetic.

  8. 8 Autonomous Mind 22/06/2013 at 7:45 pm

    You attack every criticism of him on this blog. Anyone who has fallen foul of him you deign view as bitter, resentful or vengeance-seeking. In your eyes Farage never does anything wrong. It’s not hard to see that as sycophancy.

    You consistently ignore the possibility that people have UKIP’s future and good standing at heart and, from their detailed experience of Farage, they can see he is will do harm to UKIP and is not the right person to lead that party. You think people should get behind him irrespective of the criticism of him. If it’s not sycophancy, what is it?

  9. 9 Paul Perrin (@pperrin) 22/06/2013 at 8:44 pm

    Nonsense – I rarely visit this blog.

    But have it your way – you can try to block the UK’s only chance to leave the EU – along with LibLabCon.


  10. 10 Autonomous Mind 22/06/2013 at 9:10 pm

    And I repeat… ‘You think people should get behind him irrespective of the criticism of him. If it’s not sycophancy, what is it?’

    With you last comment I rest my case.

  11. 11 Richard North 22/06/2013 at 9:11 pm

    And there goes the sycophantic mantra … no sentient thought is permitted,

  12. 12 Bruce 23/06/2013 at 11:07 am

    As an antidote to AM and Richard North’s bitter griping, it’s worthwhile reading Delingpole on the issue. He gets it.

  13. 13 Autonomous Mind 23/06/2013 at 12:30 pm

    No he doesn’t, and nor do you Bruce. Let’s see if we can penetrate your cognitive dissonance for a moment… “It’s about the hypocrisy”.

  14. 14 Oiseau 23/06/2013 at 4:16 pm

    Truly disappointing revelations. There is no defending this hypocrisy.

  15. 15 Steve 23/06/2013 at 8:54 pm

    At first, I though Odeston was a ‘bot’!

    He started “Nigel Farage has built a party ……”. The only people who believe this are the sycophants and ring-kissers. The party is enjoying an increase due to the public disaffection with the 3 main parties – I can think of no stratagem or plan to increase membership by the party, other than the hard work of grass roots members.

    A clueless leadership, with no structure (Nigel doesn’t like it), and utterly useless gravy-train passenger MEPs, how can any of its current success be laid at their door?

    UKIP should be doing a great deal better than they are, but if you speak to many members, it doesn’t come across as a party, merely a personality cult. Comments (above) from obvious members support this fully.

  16. 16 Steve 23/06/2013 at 9:01 pm

    And while on the subject, Odeston:

    “…Do not forget UKIP is the only party that can regain our country’s independence or even wants our independence reinstated. We need to keep that big picture in mind at all times.”

    How does UKIP plan to get from zero MPs (with sabotaged elections, as per “that” report on the Mayoral / Assembly elections in London last year) to 326 MPs in the 2015 general election? (If we are to “regain our independence”?)

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