How can Labour be ahead in the polls?

The other day, the Guardian covered Ed Balls’ interview on Sky News where he said that most people did not spend their time watching Commons debates and that what was much more important was winning the debate among the public at large.  Balls was quoted as saying:

The nature of politics is, you either spend your time in the bubble, obsessed, reading all the diary columns, worried about the Daily Mail, or you think let’s go and talk to people about what’s happening in their lives.

One wonders who does the talking in this supposed dialogue with the people. Of particular interest is whether Balls acknowledges in these big conversations that much of what is going on in people’s lives today, from a financial perspective, stems from the economic policies and reckless borrow and spend he presided over.

Judging by what passes for Labour economic policies these days, the evidence suggests not.

On planet Balls, the financial mismanagement and mountain of debt that built up that took place under Labour before May 2010 has nothing to do with him or his champagne socialist friends. Every financial ill and economic woe is the fault of the Con-Dem coagulation.

He rails against and criticises everything, but the sum total of how he would manage the economy is to say ‘not like this’, or ‘we would not have gone this far this fast’, or to attack the ‘slowest recovery in history’ while most other countries are not recovering at all.

The factors that brought about Labour’s worst election performance in 2010 are unchanged.  They still believe in the same bankrupt dogma that saw the much of the electorate still willing to vote turn against them.  So quite why so many people seem prepared to give them another five years to wreak more havoc, both economically and socially, only this time under Ed Miliband, the architect of rising energy prices to subsidise corporate interests, eludes rational explanation.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter if Labour wins or not.  Whoever takes office will maintain the same corporatist direction of travel at our ever rising expense, regardless of the colour of the rosette.  But even so, Labour’s lead in the polls defies logic.

21 Responses to “How can Labour be ahead in the polls?”


  1. 1 tedtreenTed Treen 10/12/2013 at 2:21 pm

    Ed Balls:- talking balls.

    No change there, then…

  2. 2 Barrie Singleton 10/12/2013 at 2:37 pm

    Westminster Creatures are assiduously selected for their Creatureness i.e. political bent – even political twist. At the top of the fetid heap, the feudal lord (currently Dastardly Dave) dispenses ‘places and sinecures’ on grounds a long way from aptitude and adriotness of the appointee, in the discipline to be headed. We really do get agricultural rocket science – IDS is a ready example. And the Health Service is Fred Dibnah brain surgery. I have just bought a book, by a couple of academics, called: “The Blunders of Our Governments”. Watch this space.

  3. 3 Edward Spalton 10/12/2013 at 2:47 pm

    We shouldn’t forget the debt we owe to Ed Balls (apart from the debt he helped to run up on our account, that is!). When the world was young and New Labour in power, Gordon Brown had an undeserved reputation as the “iron Chancellor”. Part of the reason for this was that he had come up with something called “post endogenous growth theory”. Nobody knew what it was but, from the man who later claimed (and believed ) that he had “abolished boom and bust”, it sounded jolly impressive. Then it emerged that Ed Balls had coined the phrase which gave Michael Heseltine the opportunity of saying “So, you see, it was not Brown’s at all. It was Balls!”
    Cheered us up not inconsiderably – oh yes – at the time, just when we were beginning to miss Mr Major.

  4. 4 Ian Innes 10/12/2013 at 4:04 pm

    It simply proves 30+ % of the voting population are thick.

    Every time a Labour Government has been in power it has ended up in economic disaster so anyone who ever voted Labour after their first time in office (benefit of the doubt here) is thick, or doesn’t read their history.

    As for the “other choices”, some choice”!

  5. 5 Odin's Raven 10/12/2013 at 4:05 pm

    It’ s surely easy to understand that an increasing proportion of the population is dependent on state handouts, and that’s all they know or care about. They are brought up in the belief that this is their right and that Labour will do most to provide it. Any slackness on their part in voting Labour will be offset by importing more of the Third World, imbued with the same belief and by postal voting fraud and constituency gerrymandering. That’s the future of what used to be Britain.

  6. 6 Barrie Singleton 10/12/2013 at 4:15 pm

    30%? Only 30%?! Democracy is a political trick – ‘D’ MOCK CRASS Y? is what we suffer under. And the answer to Y?, is because ‘they’ sold us the myth of universal suffrage: the chocolate teapot of collective competence. Anyone who believes in the latter should try to justify it in a short essay – then read it back! It’s about as dumb as deciding men and women are the same, or that the nation who can do the most killing and destroying is best/right. As for believing “Yes We Can” is a Harry Potter magic spell for successful governance, if that dosn’t demand a ‘Certificate of Voting Competece’ be established, what does?

  7. 7 Barrie Singleton 10/12/2013 at 4:18 pm

    Amen to that Raven. (Great beak!)

  8. 8 @Sceptic_Tank 10/12/2013 at 4:24 pm

    Maybe (i) massive immigration from low-income socialist countries, (ii) record high youth unemployment due at least in part to (iii) worsening state-education output, all achieved by Blair/Brown/Balls et al offer some explanations.

    Keeping in mind that these surveys are done in the street or on the phone they do not take into account who will actually cast his/her/its* vote. If opinions were weighted according to past voting participation, I’d have more respect for them. As it is, with just 63% ave t/out for the last 3 GEs any fool can see that the forecasts for the 3 main parties (4 if you include the LibDems) have margins of error sufficient to reverse any perceived lead.

    *Must stay PC.

  9. 9 Edward Spalton 10/12/2013 at 4:30 pm

    Not forgetting, Odin’s Raven and Barrie Singleton, that Labour set out to achieve a massive demographic shift in the population through opening the way for massive immigration on a scale equivalent to invasion and, in practice, giving the newcomers superior rights at law to the native population – so that to express any opposition to the influx became seen as semi criminal. As the incomers mostly came to England I surmise that it was Labour’s way of replacing the Scottish Labour MPs in the event of Mr. Salmond carrying his referendum. Labour were, in fact “electing a new people” – and one with a high level of welfare dependency – a new client group for them to manipulate.

  10. 10 Barrie Singleton 10/12/2013 at 4:56 pm

    Your overview entirely valid ES. The adage says: “For evil to triumph all that is required is that good men do nothing.”
    Evil HAS triumphed. All that is now required for it’s never-ending continuance, is a culture so base that no ‘good men’ (or equivalent) arise.
    Westminster is a citadel with ramparts facing the people. The Westminster Creatures intend that the advantage gained, is built upon. I have challenged every aspect of governance with material evidence of a ‘stolen election’ in 2010, (see my site). This over 3 years. One MP has validated my challenge (by phone of course). Well, half a ‘good man’ out of 640 is as good as it gets, I suppose.

  11. 11 Niall Warry 10/12/2013 at 5:00 pm

    I believe Labour’s lead in the polls is down to people giving the Government a good kicking at this point in the electoral cycle. Come the time to actually vote I believe, those that bother to vote, will just give the Tories the lead as people in their heads know that to return Labour to power would be a disaster.

  12. 12 Barrie Singleton 10/12/2013 at 5:07 pm

    Hi NW

    My thinking train led me to conclude that PARTY politics is an aberration.
    It seems to me the test is: what other major enterprise divides its controlling body into two (or more) and requires them to spar as a means to better management? So far as I know the answer is “none”. I reckon party politics, a connivance of all factions, is far more damaging OF ITSELF than any one party getting the reins.

  13. 13 Furor Teutonicus 10/12/2013 at 5:19 pm

    XX So quite why so many people seem prepared to give them another five years XX

    Ach, come On! You know as well as I do, the public are easily lead imbiciles.

    They will vote on local issues in National elections, and roll over on their backs like a good Liverpool dock road lady of negotiable effection for any party that offers them a 0.2% more income tax cut than the other party. (Even when they are life time dolies, and will not be effected any way. Their brains do not work THAT far!)

  14. 14 angela ellis-jones 10/12/2013 at 5:50 pm

    ‘eludes rational explanation’

    No it doesn’t,when you realise,as several of the earlier contributors have,that a large proportion of the population is irremediably thick.
    Perhaps you need to have attended a state school to realise just how thick they are,which perhaps explains why so many of these privately -educated types have such a touching faith in the goodness of democracy.
    to D MOCK CRASS Y add DAMNOCRACY.

    Almost all Conservative writers,and many Liberals a century ago dreaded the arrival of mass democracy.For a time,after it was fully introduced in 1928,it seemed as if it was working reasonably well,but the chickens seem to have finally come home to roost.Plato foresaw the ultimate outcome,and it won’t be happy.

    As for Ed Balls and his piano -playing,it’s beyond hilarious.He seems to be so proud of attaining a grade 3 standard – something that some of us did at the age of 11!

  15. 15 SOLO PLANER 11/12/2013 at 6:53 am

    Slightly off-track, and illustrating what a completely malleable clown I am, but I am a little concerned about an occurrence last night.

    In the midst of my evening meal I had to answer the door – a very amiable young man presented a card which I could barely read, told me my name, and asked if I was still a resident in my property.

    He noted that I had not returned my voter registration form and could I sign one now – which I unthinkingly did.

    I expect that you can guess the million questions now spinning around in my mind with the main one being “Is this legal”.

  16. 16 Furor Teutonicus 11/12/2013 at 9:51 am

    XX In the midst of my evening meal I had to answer the doorXX

    HAD to?

    In which law book does it say that?

    Unless they have a written appointment I never answer my door. The same goes with the telephone.

  17. 17 atan 13/12/2013 at 11:23 pm

    Who are they Polling?…..Poles?.

  18. 18 Barrie Singleton 13/12/2013 at 11:32 pm

    Polls are just one of the many ways our power elite mask their close kinship with North Korean tyrants. You can’t put a plain-packeted fag paper between them. Dave would have Balls machine-gunned without a moment’s pause.

  19. 19 Bruce 18/12/2013 at 8:32 am

    “Ultimately it doesn’t matter if Labour wins or not. Whoever takes office will maintain the same corporatist direction of travel at our ever rising expense, regardless of the colour of the rosette. But even so, Labour’s lead in the polls defies logic.”

    Not if Farage was PM.

  20. 20 Barrie Singleton 18/12/2013 at 9:51 am

    Spot on Bruce. That’s what I am fighting. UKIP is just another party, to play party games in the Westminster Citadel of Gaming. Please take a glance at my website.

  21. 21 Autonomous Mind 22/12/2013 at 7:18 am

    Really, Bruce? And pray tell, who fills all the other seats around the cabinet table? Or will SuperNige run every ministry and department single handed? President Nige?


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