General Election 2015: Labour must be stopped

This blog has not spent enough time focusing on the Labour party.

Much of our time has been devoted to highlighting serious flaws in a party we wish was doing so much better, but is hamstrung by incompetent, rudderless and lazy leadership.  But following the party’s actions and inactions subsequent polling shows that the momentum it built, before the 2013 local elections and its high point in winning council seats and polling above the Lib Dems, has ground to a halt.

UKIP may have finally embraced Article 50, but a damaging combination of shallow intellectual base, poor political judgement and disgraceful misallocation of resources means the party offers little and can deliver even less.  Its only relevance in 2015 will be the extent to which it damages the Conservatives and leaves the way open for Labour to form the next government.  Depressing and frustrating for ‘kippers and those of us with anti-EU sentiment, but true.

Ed Miliband getting the keys to Downing Street is a prospect that should increasingly fill people with horror.  While over 70% of our laws and regulations are imposed by the EU, the remaining percentage of governance still controlled within these shores provides Labour with ample scope to cause substantial harm to this country.

While there has been much talk of UKIP posing the main threat to Labour in the north, the reality is the ‘north’ is not a single entity.  There are as many complexities, rivalries, jealousies and agendas in the north of England as there are constituencies.  One size does not fit all.  UKIP appealing to folk in Burnley for example, does not mean it therefore appeals in the likes of Wythenshawe, Sedegefield, Batley, Hemsworth, Blaydon and Wansbeck. Being opponents to Labour and not be Tories has not been sufficient for Lib Dems all these years and it won’t be for UKIP.  The real battles in 2015 will be Conservative marginals, where unpopular government faces off against incompetent opposition that will cause real damage to this country if it is able to form a government.

The Labour way is the wrong way and that is even before you factor in the increasing control being exerted by the trade unions, whose desires are increasingly out of kilter with the desires of ordinary people and families, and the fact the party is – to use that infamous expression coined in The Thick of It – disconnected to the point of autism.

Labour held sway in Scotland and was so dire it was replaced by the pisspoor SNP, which has also managed the referendum campaign in such cack-handed fashion it is now likely to be beaten by dire Labour at the next election.  The real losers however are the Scots people who see-saw between two cheeks of the same arse and see their country steadily deteriorate as the client state grows, outcomes decline and wealth creation dwindles.

Then take Wales, where the Labour administration is getting some overdue, uncomfortable scrutiny from Daily Mail today.  Even making allowances for the usual media errors, hyperbole and spin, the article still hits on many home truths about the Labour party and the way it operates in office.  The key takeaway is that despite all the failings and incompetence highlighted and the attendant corruption that always accompanies Labour rule, Ed Miliband holds up Wales as an example of Labour in action.

Miliband’s declaration that if a new EU treaty is presented to the UK during a Labour government, he would hold an in/out referendum rather than a yes/no on the terms of the treaty itself, looks like a gift to the anti-EU side.  But it isn’t.

It is a carefully constructed ploy to maximise the prospect of an ‘in’ vote and put an end to discussion about leaving the EU for a generation or more.  The lines that will be taken in addition to the current unsubstantiated reasons for remaining a province of the EU are obvious… along the lines of ‘You wanted reform and here is reform’, ‘It would be overkill to leave the EU just because of this treaty?’.  Combined with the fear, uncertainty and doubt that will be spun concerning alleged economic and employment impacts, even when countered, many voters will opt for a ‘safety first’ approach and stick with EU membership.

So as you can see, it is not just Labour’s unique brand of spiteful, corrupt administration that will be brought about across the whole country by Miliband taking office in 2015, but also Labour’s insipid plan to destroy the anti-EU movement and cement the UK’s involvement in bringing about ever closer union.  Labour has to be prevented from winning the next election.  More thoughts on this soon.

20 Responses to “General Election 2015: Labour must be stopped”


  1. 1 wj (@wj557) 22/03/2014 at 12:28 pm

    I hope that I haven’t stolen any future thunder AM, but it has been a bit of a thought rolling about in my mind, that for the upcoming elections it might be an idea to vote UKIP in the EU part and Conservative in the local elections.

    We must never let Labour into power again – they despise our country and have nothing but contempt for the working people who pay the wages of their soviet-style council cronies.

  2. 2 Bellevue 22/03/2014 at 12:46 pm

    I must say, as the election comes nearer and with the stories about Labour-run Wales etc. and what is going on in Scotland; and then Milliband’s dodging and weaving with regards to any referendum…… I am beginning to think the same way as you. Labour CANNOT be allowed to win the election.

    I had been minded to vote UKIP in order to give the entire political class a good kicking, but now I am thinking that there is too much at stake.

    I look forward to your further thoughts.

  3. 3 Oliver J.S. McMullen 22/03/2014 at 3:54 pm

    Whilst I empathise with the sentiment behind this post I’m afraid the reality is that Labour simply cannot be stopped. They will in all probability “win” in 2015 or, to put it more accurately, they will take office by default. And this will be the result of the far too many people who refused to see the Tory party for what it really was in 2010 – a left liberal caretaker party to keep the ministerial seats warm for Labour’s return. A Labour “victory” will not be the worst possible result. The worst result would be a Lib Dem revival and subsequent Lib/Lab coalition government – think about it you just know how bad that would be. Fortunately this seems less likely than it was due to the Lib Dem’s collapsing popularity.

    If Labour is to be stopped, as you put it, a genuinely conservative opposition is required and at the moment this simply does not exist. In reality I think Labour’s ability to cause damage will be limited by several factors. First – we are completely broke. Second the turnout will be – I hope – incredibly low, so low in fact that even the legacy media won’t be able to paper over the resultant crisis of legitimacy. And that IMO is what is needed – a crisis of political legitimacy so severe that it forces even the densest to wake up and realise there is a problem. And finally if, or rather when, the Tory party does collapse – an event which is now I think inevitable – it will take the Labour party with it. Only mutual hatred and fear of each party’s remaining supporters for the “other side” is what props up their vote. Worrying about what Labour will do when it achieves office is futile and pointless. The choice is between a fast or slow leftward drift or a return to an honestly adversarial system. For that we need fresh new political movements and parties and for those to arise we need the aforementioned political crisis. Please God let it be soon.

    P.S: UKIP is IMO an utter irrelevance to this country’s future (assuming it even has one). It is a protest party and an artefact of the Tory party’s intellectual and moral decay. Imagining that they are or were ever any answer to our political malaise is equivalent to imagining you could re-float the Titanic with an inflated pig’s bladder.

  4. 4 cosmic 22/03/2014 at 6:44 pm

    This seems like a very odd position from someone who’s been extolling the virtues of not voting at all.

    I don’t think there’s the slightest prospect that we won’t have a Labour government in office next time round, by Buggin’s turn.

    The Conservatives have been in something of a crisis for years, chasing a middle ground which is largely a Westminster Village construct, and trying to appeal to the trendy left; foreign aid and gay marriage etc. In doing this,
    Cameron has gone out of his way to alienate much of their core support.

    A lot of people are not going to vote Conservative while Cameron is in charge. One of the things he’s done is to remove the difference between the parties and thereby remove the fear of letting Labour in.

    They were a terrible opposition, over-awed by Nu Labour and failing to call them on their lies. They couldn’t gain a clear win against a tired Labour regime lead by the hapless Brown. Cameron seemed relieved to get into bed with the LibDems.

    As for the question of leaving the EU and any referendum, I wouldn’t trust Cameron at all on this. We have two parties both completely determined we are not leaving the EU and both of which have had to make some concession towards a referendum. A lot of this is down to the travails of the Euro always keeping the subject of the EU in the news, but at least a part of it is due to UKIP.

    I think the Conservatives are in terminal decline, because they haven’t managed to come out with a right wing view of the world with wide appeal and based on principle. I’d say they’d never really been a small state, right wing party anyway. More like paternalistic socialists setting out to look after their pals and established interests.

    Sadly, UKIP are mostly an irrelevance, in large measure because of the way they are playing it, but partly because they are a political party in the current set up.

    I can’t see any point in advocating some scheme for supporting the Tories in key marginals on the grounds that they are fractionally less obviously bad than Labour.

  5. 5 Mark B 22/03/2014 at 10:20 pm

    “More like paternalistic socialists setting out to look after their pals and established interests.”

    Although I have been thinking something like this for a long time, I have never been able to put into the kind of words you have.

    The Conservatives have set themselves on the same path as their current political bedfellows.

    The great trick/success of the Socialists, is the ability to con so many working class people that they are just like them and, that they have their interests at heart. The reality, as some soon discover, is that they are all about power and control.

    I think RedEd’s time in office will be to turn the clock back and further strengthen Labour’s hold over the country and its institutions. 2010 was probably the closest the Conservative’s will ever be to power. If they had people with real nous and vision, they would first had a good look at an electoral map of the UK to see where their main support is. If they had, they would have made boundary changes and probably proposed and English Parliament post 2015.

    Someone on another blog posted about a possible Labour Government as being, an opportunity for ‘creative destruction’. We had that in the 70′ and early 80’s. We have witnessed this with Iceland.

    I do not think any party is likely to give us a referendum. They like things as they are. Our only hope is, that things will get far worse post 2015 both here and on the continent. The EU is not much loved and, whole generations will come to see it for the fools gold that it is. We just have to wait our turn.

  6. 6 Furor Teutonicus 23/03/2014 at 6:46 am

    They should all remember it is the bi-centenary of Waterloo. And the chances of winning such a battle TWICE, are what?

    Be winners, or be French. And that gfoes for ALL partys. Lets have something other than spam spam, spam and spam to vote FOR!

  7. 7 Sevad 23/03/2014 at 9:26 am

    Like many UKIP supporters, I hardly ever stop by here now. It looks as if people loyal to UKIP, ie. those who don’t want to stab the party in the back over some personal issues, have just decided to leave you and your embittered sidekick North to it. If UKIP withers, the Tories disappear up their own bums – probably the sexual goal of many of the party’s upper-class-twits – and Labour do indeed walk the next general election, you can be pleased that your constant criticism of UKIP and Farage will no doubt have played a minor part. Well done. You must be proud.

  8. 8 rick hamilton 23/03/2014 at 10:37 am

    Labour did a great job dumbing down the population so that most of them now believe in the economic equivalent of tooth fairies. Egged on by the BBC and other useful idiots.

    The job of government is to determine how the country is going to earn its living in the 21st century and make it happen. I don’t think any of the major parties has the remotest clue on that issue. All they know is how to spend money and impose more regulation, preferably dreamt up by the EU.

  9. 9 Clive 23/03/2014 at 11:19 am

    Wilson,Benn, Kinnock , Blair ,Brown and now Milliband .Can anybody give one example of any policy that’s actually worked in all the years in power .I give you one , every single one of them tax and spend on the crackpot socialist and Marxists views and left the country at the verge of bankruptcy every time they are voted out of office ” didn’t they do well ” .Lets be honest Milliband and his apparatchik have been caught on the back foot with the budget and the great new policy on pensions .Keep these new policies coming through as it effects people’s lives and this will keep Milliband and Labour out of power hopefully for generations .

  10. 10 Autonomous Mind 23/03/2014 at 3:00 pm

    Sevad, thanks for your poor attempt to shoot the messenger. Spare me your bitter indignation and direct it at Farage for the failure he is presiding over.

  11. 11 cosmic 23/03/2014 at 3:35 pm

    Savad,

    If all UKIP votes transferred to the Tories, they still couldn’t win, and we know that wouldn’t happen anyway. The Tories’ problems go a lot deeper than UKIP luring a part of their vote away and are more to do with the Tories driving their own vote away, or not providing anything very compelling to vote for. I suspect that Tories who’ve become disenchanted and no long vote at all are their biggest problem.

    I do think that as they are, turning into a protest vote with no more thought and no greater scheme behind them, UKIP are at best going to end up like a right wing version of the LibDems. Since they have widely spread support and it’s hard for them to gain MPs, they may even prove to have less staying power than the LibDems.

    They really need to up their game and stop missing open goals.

  12. 12 Sevad 23/03/2014 at 4:29 pm

    OK, let’s talk about failure.

    Since you love to criticise UKIP, let’s look at your laughable Harrogate Agenda. I went onto Alexa to find out just how much your movement’s online presence has grown. Oops! Your website has had too little traffic to register. That means it’s getting practically no traffic. Pathetic! UKIP, meanwhile is up 43,000 places according to Alexa: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ukip.org

    And since you like to criticise UKIP’s website, how has http://www.harrogateagenda.org been fairing recently from a content point of view? Difficult to say really as it hasn’t been updated, according to your home page, since September last year. Pathetic!

    What about your Harrogate Agenda blog, then? How has the recent rapier-like analysis of the UK’s political landscape been going there? Can’t say since the last entry was on November 15. Pathetic!

    As you like to claim that UKIP is on the slide, let’s take a look at Google Trends and compare the number of searches its had with those for the Harrogate Agenda, shall we? Oops again! Whilst UKIP’s search numbers have been growing over the last four years (it’s slight but positive) the much-vaunted (in your own minds) Harrogate Agenda is continuing to flat line. Zero searches, to all intents and purposes. Pathetic!

    And this is Britain’s best hope on the political front? The almost non-existent, zero impact, legend-in-its-own-lunchtime, powerhouse that is the Harrogate Agenda? Truly pathetic.

    I’ll take UKIP and Farage, warts and all, any day. We might achieve our aims or we might not. But at least we have a pulse.

  13. 13 Autonomous Mind 23/03/2014 at 4:50 pm

    Hahahaha :)

    Nothwithstanding your staggering ignorance, why that has any bearing on Farage’s dire performance and how over the last 20 years UKIP has achieved nothing, is beyond me. Is that really the only response you can muster? Stuttering and blustering about something that has nothing to do with UKIP in the hope the party’s incompetence is missed by the other readers? You’ve worked so hard to dig up something to throw at me you’re clearly looking for something, perhaps you should try the Catholic Church?

    For what it’s worth, Harrogate so far and throughout the next few years is about establishing a core and intellectual base, not about gaining supporters. We are consciously not bringing on supporters because we want the full offering to have been developed before we do. I wouldn’t expect you to understand what it takes to build the foundation of a campaign being designed to run for 30+ years. But never mind, you carry on comparing apples with keyrings and telling yourself how clever you are.

    I do wonder why UKIP cultists seem to have such a bee in their bonnet about Harrogate when it is a fledgling democracy campaign, not a political party or rival in any way.

  14. 14 cosmic 23/03/2014 at 10:25 pm

    Savad,

    You are being drawn into thinking UKIP is an end in itself rather than a means to an end.

    That way lies disaster.

  15. 15 Sevad 24/03/2014 at 9:11 am

    While the EU is proceeding towards superpower status, let’s wait 30+ years for the Harrogate Agenda to build up a head of steam. What a brilliant idea! Why couldn’t I have thought of that? Oh, wait – that’ll be because I have a functioning brain and a sense of urgency!

    Let’s face it: the Harrogate Agenda is going nowhere. The Chartists handed in a petition with more than a million signatures to parliament just a year or so after they got started. They were holding meetings all over the country. They made an impression and were attracting interest the length and breadth of Britain. You and North and your cronies, who apparently think of yourselves as “intellectuals”, are only speaking to each other. Nobody has heard of the agenda and nobody, outwith a couple of hundred men in blazers, gives a damn. Why don’t you hold meetings across Britain? I’ll answer that for you – because no one would turn up. The aims of the agenda are sound but the movement itself is a joke. Britain needs men of action right now, not men-of-blazers.

    Those of you who applaud the constant bashing of UKIP and Farage on this blog should ask yourself what the proposed alternative is. Short of waiting until 2045 by which time the agenda might just be known to the catering staff of the Harrogate hotel where you hold your meetings, what do North and his mini me author of this blog suggest? Does it treat the situation with any urgency? How likely is it to succeed? Can we wait more than a generation for any action?

    In response to Cosmic who accused me of seeing UKIP as an end in itself I say bollocks! Farage might well be a horrible person. UKIP might well be a badly-run organisation. But the simple fact is that there is no other organisation rallying that level of anti-EU support. I couldn’t care less who gets us out of Europe and gives Britain back her sovereignty. I’d support the girl guides if I thought they could do it – and they’ve probably got as much chance as North and Co.

    I and many more like me will support any organisation that will get the job done. Sadly, at the moment, the only option with a ghost of a chance is UKIP. If you don’t agree, fine. But let’s hear your alternative – one with a realistic chance and a sense of urgency. Can you imagine the situation had North been Prime Minister when the Germans were rampaging through Europe. What are we going to do Prime Minister? “Well, let’s launch an organisation with really sound goals. But instead of rallying the common people, let’s spend the first 30 years building the support of intellectuals. And then, when we’ve got lots of really brainy people behind us, we’ll petition the Nazis and tell them what our voting rights should be and what we expect of them when it comes to governing us. That’ll teach them to mess with us!” Jog on Richard.

  16. 16 Autonomous Mind 24/03/2014 at 10:15 am

    You’re clearly engaging keyboard before brain. Harrogate is not about leaving the EU, it’s about turning the UK into a functioning democracy. That the need for democracy also mean there is a requirment to leave the EU is not in doubt, but Harrogate was not formed with that express purpose. Which makes the rest of your rant pretty superfluous really.

    You’re right that we are only speaking to each other, because we are constructing an intellectual base. That does not mean we see ourselves as intellectuals, an intellectual base is the foundation, grounding and DNA of a plan that enables people to understand the objectives and answer questions about them. There is no point talking to the public until we have answers to the questions and a workable plan to present.

    As for oh-so-clever analogy with 1930s Germany, how witty of you. The reality is UKIP would be a lot more informed and effective if North’s advice had been heeded. He wanted the troops trained, equipped and ready for battle long before the war so they could fight and win. He wanted UKIP to develop a research function to ensure UKIP MEPs and candidates would understand the EU so they could help defeat it, by rebutting pro-EU spin and providing the media with high quality, breaking information that would have left the main three parties completely discredited in front of the electorate. Farage rejected it. He saw the parallels with the Conservative Research dept and believed it would become a power base that would launch effective leadership candidates that would topple him. The person who has held back the anti-EU side is Farage.

    Perhaps given your self evident ignorance of the subject, the history and your determination to make this personal, it is you who needs to jog on.

  17. 17 Sevad 24/03/2014 at 1:25 pm

    You’re the one with the premature keyboard ejaculation problem. Where did I say the Harrogate Agenda is about leaving the EU? Nice strawman. I’m asking what your alternative proposal to achievIng that goal might be since you think so little of UKIP. Mention of the Harrogate Agenda is to show your readers that, while you constantly criticise UKIP and Farage, your agenda isn’t exactly setting the heather alight. Is it? Maybe you and North aren’t the towering-intellects-with-all-the-answers you like to pretend.

  18. 18 Autonomous Mind 24/03/2014 at 2:28 pm

    Let me quote back your comment…

    “While the EU is proceeding towards superpower status, let’s wait 30+ years for the Harrogate Agenda to build up a head of steam. What a brilliant idea!”

    If that is not saying Harrogate is about leaving the EU, then what is it saying? If the two are completely unrelated why are they presented in the same sentence?

    I don’t think little of UKIP, I think a lot of it. Sadly UKIP is being let down by an absence of leadership, hence the recent polls showing its support is falling back and the number of people saying they would vote to stay ‘in’ the EU overtaking the ‘out’ supporters.

    You didn’t ask me what my alternative proposal is to UKIP, you told me to ask myself. Your attempt to belittle Harrogate might mean something if we were actually going out to win supporters, rather than building the campaign’s core. But we aren’t, so it doesn’t. Also, I have never professed to be an intellectual, so who is building strawmen now? Is that what passes for your functioning brain?

  19. 19 Sevad 24/03/2014 at 4:46 pm

    From my earlier comment, “Sadly, at the moment, the only option with a ghost of a chance is UKIP. If you don’t agree, fine. But let’s hear your alternative – one with a realistic chance and a sense of urgency.”

    I take back the “intellectual” jibe. You’re clearly not.

  20. 20 Autonomous Mind 24/03/2014 at 6:29 pm

    It may come as a raging shock to you, but I tend to turn off when having to read rambling ad hominems that go out of their way to ignore the issue at hand. I have other things to do that are far more important than indulging a troll.


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