Earlier this week we blogged about a piece in the Daily Express where Conservative ‘EU rebel’ Mark Reckless made the ludicrous claim that as many as half of the 306-strong Parliamentary party were in favour of total withdrawal from the EU.
In the comments section we went on to explain that the Tories were desperately trying to claw back deserters and cling on to waverers as their own polling data shows they would lose the next general election if it was held tomorrow, and that many Tory supporters had been saying they would never vote Conservative again after the sellout over Lisbon, HRA being shoved on the back burner and continued EU opt ins in 2010.
Yesterday Gawain over at England Expects highlighted another ‘Eurosceptic’ Tory playing tribal party politics.
It is increasingly looking like the party-before-country sentiments being expressed are being coordinated. The Tories have been damaged as the realisation has dawned among a growing number of voters that Cameron has duped them and that he never had any intention of standing by all the Eurosceptic noises made before the election. Now all hands are being roped in to hold the line – even the supposedly Eurosceptic backbenchers who were dumped on by Cameron and the Whips in the referendum motion vote.
Clearly the Tories are frit.
Autonomous Mind 
Why don’t these cussed idiots in ‘Tory Home’ turn the equation around, ie; bin the coalition and fight the new GE on a ‘out of the EU platform’ [after they ‘suspend’ Dave natch’]. Then, bin human rights, instigate real tax cuts, make public expenditure cuts ’till the prats squeal’ and commence a slaughter of the NGOs and Councils.
Fat chance……………… so be it, FO to the Tories.
One more thing, how could any SANE/breathing voter [for a moment even consider] to re-elect Milibean’s idiots?
I despair of the lot of ’em.
“One more thing, how could any SANE/breathing voter [for a moment even consider] to re-elect Milibean’s idiots?”
I think most sane/breathing voters might despair of finding anyone out of the present 650 to support.
A start would be a move to impeach both Milipede and Buffhuhne for their incompetence and dishonesty as Secretaries of State for Energy & Climate Change and for the huge damage and waste of resources they have overseen.
You are kind, have you seen his article in the local press further digging his own grave?
http://t.co/owcHtElW
These anarchaeic political parties have abandoned their traditional support and are in thrall to the corporatist lobby and interests now, that is why we are seeing mooted the prospect of centrally taxpayer funded support to prop up the remaining status quo….if this happens and I fear it will then we will find it even harder to remove them peacefully or democratically for they will still seek and grasp at office and the illusion of power this gives them even if they get just 10% of an elecorate voting.
the current coalition government has NO mandate to govern, it never has as all of the mainstream parties were rejected by not only low electorate turnout but also by an overwhelmingly clear message that none of them offered the policies that we the electorate want, yet this coagualtion is treated as if it has the mandate to govern and acts as if it has the divine right to do so, why is that? a deep question methinks that needs soul searching answers from many of the tribal voters who still vote for them…
like V for Vendetta I believe wholeheartedly now that only a mass forceful perhaps even violent struggle is the only way to free us of the shackles of the ancien regime but alas as we see in countless examples from history unless great care is taken to preserve historic liberties and freedoms like animal farm we will revert to the maxim we live under now in that;
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
Really who cares?
The parties are THE Problem because the Party State ain’t ever going to change in anyway that benefits the people of these islands. The Party merry go round will keep throwing out different ‘leaders’ who will ponce around the world with pockets stuffed with the taxation they all steal, rather too easily, from the peoples pockets and purses before throwing at anyone they think will raise their standing in their world.
The Party system is a dead man walking in my humble that is sadly still in control of this green and pleasant land.
People cling to it because they are told by the Party system that without them there would be anarchy. That same Party system then provides examples of the anarchy by ‘encouraging’ a bit of rioting and looting every now and then to remind the people what it would be like if there was no Party System running the show.
IF the Cons were even a partially eurosceptic party then as soon as the forehead banned the referendum those Con party members who are eurosceptic should have given up their membership in their thousands and returned but they didn’t.
They could have created a new Con party that is run on Con values but they didn’t.
The 81 Con MP’s could have resigned their membership of the party and seen out the rest of their tenure as independents. but they didn’t.
They could simply have gone to their local Con Party and asked what they should be doing once the forehead made it clear ‘his party’ was going to vote against the referendum question but once again they didn’t.
To my mind what is required is a catastrophic change brought about from outside of the Party State that would sweep away the self serving Party State and replace it with a Swiss style democracy where the government is subservient to the collective will of the people. It has its flaws but it isn’t fatally flawed like the Party State autocracy is.
Sadly the majority of people cling to what they know fearing what they don’t.
If we don’t get a vote on the EU before the next election then my local Tory MP will have to manage without my vote (he voted against the referendum). Unfortunately he’s got a fairly safe seat, so one missing vote won’t dent his majority by much.
Belgium has shown that it is possible to exist completely without a government for a year and no doubt could have continued to do so if it had not been for the politicians to finally agree on a solution. Sadly the Europhilia of the bulk of our civil service, supported by the BBC, means that if we could try that approach intentionally here, we would get subsumed into the EUSSR. If only ITV could be persuaded to fight back on our behalf, the education of the electorate would arm it to demand a solution
UKIP must focus on winning power, not just destroying the right. Ed Miliband is now in favour of the Euro. That’s what we’ll get if we don’t form an alliance with the Conservatives, after sinking them.