Following on from yesterday’s post on this vitally important matter, in his speech in Berlin on Tuesday the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, said this:
The biggest enemy of Europe today is fear. Fear leads to egoism, egoism leads to nationalism, and nationalism leads to war (“le nationalisme, c’est la guerre” (F. Mitterrand)). Today’s nationalism is often not a positive feeling of pride of one’s own identity, but a negative feeling of apprehension of the others.
By so doing he compounded his lie about those who are sceptical of the EU, or who reject it for its anti democratic and centralising qualities.
The reality is this. The biggest enemy – not of Europe but of the EU – today is fear. Fear that the people will see through the efforts of the political elite such as Van Rompuy, with their flags, anthems, judicial structures, and plans for an EU army, to subvert democracy and replace it with an unaccountable and untouchable bureaucracy that will control all those living within the borders of their artificial construct. Fear that the elite’s thirst for complete self serving, hegemonic domination of the people of Europe will be challenged and defeated.
That fear which ferments inside the EU does indeed lead to egoism. One only needs to look at Van Rompuy or his colleague in the Commission, José Manuel Barroso, to see the rampant egoism and unswerving belief that they and their colleagues alone know best and that we must bend to their will. Because of the EU’s fear they try to stoke fear in people. They falsely claim that rejection of their creed leads to nationalism. They claim that sovereign, independent nation states will lead to war. It is a lie.
For 65 years independent nation states have worked together to maintain peace in Europe. There was no need for political or judicial union. We had an alliance of nations who were free to determine for themselves how and by whom they were governed, with whom they would trade and what laws they would live under. We worked together without being coerced into doing so.
Integration was the pipe dream of those who wanted to extend their own sphere of influence. Integration was the means by which a small elite could confer power upon themselves by removing it from people. The nation state, democratic society and consent to accepted law were the obstacles to their objective and that is why they have sought to undermine, erode and demonise them and falsely claim that independence would only ever lead to war. They have used manipulation, distortion and emotional blackmail. They have resorted to trading in fear in order to achieve their own selfish ends. We are now approaching an impasse.
Nations evolve when people share things in common, such as accepted laws, currency and values. Leaders are chosen to do the bidding of the people. Trade and engagement with other nations builds bonds and where interests are shared they can work together while their peoples retain their identities and the things that unite them. The European Union project aims to supplant multiple nations with one large nation – but crucially one where the leaders are self appointed, accountable to no one and where the structures make it impossible for the people to remove them. If that is achieved then they have the power they sought and we become their permanent subjects, unable to throw off their control.
The only negative feelings of apprehension in Europe are directed at those power seekers. They are the ‘others’. They are the ones whose goal is to take control and exert their rule over us. Far from preventing conflict their actions, which disenfranchise people and remove the principle of self determination, make conflict more likely as people seek to retain that which is being removed from them.
With this in mind, who represents the danger here? Those of us who simply want to retain our liberty and right of self determination, or those such as Van Rompuy who seek to destroy it so they can hand themselves power and control over us?
Van Rompuy talks about the risk of war because of nationalism. He is fundamentally dishonest. Regardless of the rights or wrongs, the conflicts past and present in Chechnya, Georgia (South Ossetia and Abkhazia), Kashmir, Slovenia, Croatia, and East Timor among others were all about self determination and throwing off what was considered to be external rule. Perhaps the EU bureaucrats will do well to think on that before they create the same conditions for conflict in Europe.
** Having read the post by the estimable Dr Richard North at EU Referendum, who generously links to this piece, it seems I have not made myself completely clear. I said in my opening that the biggest enemy of the EU is fear, because when the people awaken they will see through the bluster and recognise the self serving EU power grabs for what they are. Richard says: ‘There is nothing to fear but the European Union itself’. He is absolutely right. For the reasons set out in the paragraphs above the peoples of Europe have good reason to fear – not each other but the EU – because its path will lead to repression and conflict, via the destruction of democracy and erosion of self determination. It is fear of that outcome that will lead people to take action, and ultimately that frightens the EU because people power will result in the end of EU plans for domination.
Autonomous Mind 
I would agree. It is the likes of Van Rompuy who are fearful, not us. They are frightened of the people.
The whole thing looks incraesingly like the Ancien Regieme. They know that trouble is formenting out there, but they are at a complete loss what to do about it.
In a desperate attempt to curry favour they fling us Brioche in the shape of grants and funds, and hope that they don’t notice that the brioche is baked with our own money.
It’s noticeable that Van Rompuy, Barroso, & the EU’s other minions all keep harping on about their beloved but artificial EU constructs while 3 of its member countries, all members of its common currency the euro, are struggling bravely – but pointlessly – to avoid default. The EU leadership is obsessed with building up its loathesome organization, while its constituent member countries are facing their worst economic crisis in at least 80 years. Instead of devoting their energies to helping member countries resolve their financial difficulties, the EU tries to tighten its suffocating grip on these countries – especially the three most vulnerable ones – Greece, Ireland, & Portugal.
And instead of helping these 3 countries default, & so have a chance of recovering behind their own newly re-instituted & devalued Greek drachmas, Irish punts, & Prtuguese escudos etc these 3 have been required to pay off all theiur debts to fellow European banks to avoid the latter going under. Better, it seems, that a country & its citizens all suffer a long period of hardship than banks, who lent money aggressively & ill-advisedly before the crisis broke 2 years ago, should have to take any haircut at all – let alone the 40% – 50% that could well apply in Greece & Ireland’s cases.
The EU’s citizens can’t fail to notice the EU’s objectionable practice of pushing its organizational priorities at a time of great economic difficulty backed up by the ever-increasing gravy train atmosphere for the EU’s privileged few in Brussels. Distaste for the EU can only grow, & distaste too for any EU nations’ politicians who pander to EU demands against their own citizens wishes.
Our own quisling government, which promised so recently to protect Britain’s interests both EU-wise & militarily, has now preferred EU appeasement to holding fast to its earlier promises to the British people. The EU’s leaders should be wary. They are angering their people. And angry people can be very destructive.
It’s interesting how people such as Rumpy can issue public statements that make no sense. Experience shows that the risk of conflict is reduced by the spread of democracy, not by the spread of bureaucracy, so what on earth is Rumpy talking about?
The obvious answer is nothing – the EU isn’t a democracy so its leaders don’t have to talk sense. Leaders who talk nonsense are characteristic of totalitarian states. As are unelected leaders of course.
Another way of putting the point, which might clarify things:
War is always about imperialism, not nationalism. An empire is the opposite of a nation.
Big wars are started by nations trying to expand an empire, and little wars are started by nations trying to escape from an empire.
If everyone practices nationalism, everyone minds their own business. Nobody tries to engulf other nations, so nobody needs to free themselves from the Big Gulp.
His statement is disingenuous in the extreme. The second world war was started by a dictatorship which had usurped its democratic orgins, The leaders as with the EU were not elected. In effect as a group whose powers are not subject to democratic control the EU is acting as a dictatorship. Rompoy has the same power as Hitler – his actions are not subject to democratic veto.
This man is dangerous and needs to be stopped. He may have the appearance of a simpleton, but my view is that he is the silent assassin under instruction to bring EU member states to their knees.
When his time is up our revenge will be swift and vicious. I can’t wait to see him fall, the odious, scheming damp rag.
I try not to get angry about this stuff any more. I’m pretty confident the European Union will collapse – eventually.
Unless people actively oppose it the EU will find a way to continue drawing power in to itself. In apathy lies the danger.
The very idea that it is possible for this United Kingdom to be other than a Kingdom of its own making is risable.
It is impossible to ignore the law of this land, no person, groups, power or government can change that in any way.
I would have hoped that there are those with the knowledge of our constitutional law, professionally or not, to have brought a case to court challenging those who are sworn to defend our established laws as to their trechery.
Michael Fowke 11/11/2010 at 4:32 pm
I try not to get angry about this stuff any more. I’m pretty confident the European Union will collapse – eventually.
Absolutely,
I myself have gone far beyond feelings of rage towards the beast. It is self-evident (unless you have ‘truth’ of course) that it cannot endure. It is equally evident that the ‘correction’ is going to be very messy indeed, the effects of which will reverberate for many centuries to come.
That ‘truth’ continues to get in the way but no matter as this has been the way of human affairs since a man and a woman first decided that they’d try to co-habitate as it seemed like a good idea.
However, possession of the ‘truth’ (in the case of Rumpy for example) does NOT absolve one of culpability for treasonable acts which, if I read the tea-leaves correctly, the ‘truth’-holders would like to deem comments like this one.
I don’t hold the ‘truth’ so am open to persuasion.
He is afraid because he knows that we will die for our nations and he has nothing to die for other than a deep desire for power. He would deny this. I can not think of a more suitable representative of the hollow empty lying EU than this snake in a suit.
I doubt that he would ever show up in public for a debate. I suspect he will be hanged in public when the euro collapses and he is identified as one of the causes of the wars of EU secession.
Wonderful stuff. have linked to this and another couple of posts here, hope you don’t mind!
With all due respect but the EU is a totally corrupt institution and they are selling out Europe’s populations.
It is Forza Italia (read Mafia)/Berlusconi on bigger scale.
Mafia connections are evident, just take a closer look at the carbon trading scheme where 90% of all trading has been linked to fraudulent entities.
Besides that the EU is wasteful, wasteful with public money.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328570/Eurocrats-waste-millions-YOUR-taxes-dog-fitness-centre-dance-troupe.html
Thanks Span Ows. Please link away!
Socialist claptrap.
Patriotism or so-called ‘nationalism’ doesn’t constitute the origin of war, statism does. That was clear in WW1 and afterwards in WW2. The socialists, national (Germany) and international (USSR), both fervent statists provoked WW2. Afterwards the communists and social-democrats blamed the national feelings of the people of Europe in order to obscure the statism, they fervently espoused and continue to do so.
I understand the thrust of the argument, and I reckon that as currently set up the EU is a war waiting to start. As a solution to the elites’ perceived fear of nationalism, the creation of a nationalist European Union is no better than the maintenance of separate nation states, particularly as the EU is even less democratic (in every sense of the word, except perhaps the North Korean sense) than the old nation states. The eventual war, will just be a lot more serious than any that have gone before.
Remember that the people that start wars and provide the ammo, are the politicians, citizens only start guerilla/terrorist activities, regardless of the political construct that they are supporting, and of course under current conditions an eventual terrorist campaign is a dead cert.
The solution is simple, one need look no further than Switzerland, where they have only had one 10 day skirmish (the Sonderbund) in the last 800 years. Switzerland is governed by the people, for the people, the system of government is organised from the bottom-up… True subsidiarity!
Given a Swiss form of democracy, there is no reason why the UK and other European nations should not form themselves into a federation (or not). The one and over-riding concept being that the politicians be regarded as functionaries and not leaders.
The proof of the pudding is that within the Swiss federation, the cantons all do what the citizens within them want them to do and they all operate competing taxation systems, they all have part-time, and at the lowest level, free government, people do it for the honour.
Such a system of government operating within the current European Union, would ensure that no sovereignty was ceded upwards, unless the people expressly permitted it… Indeed the Swiss have rejected membership of the EEC/EU on three separate occasions. This could even work at “world” level.
The upshot of course, is that among European nations, the most prosperous is Switzerland, which unlike Norway do it without huge mineral wealth (apart from Nazi gold ha-ha).
The EU was created by very smart people
that wanted it to fail
You cannot have a united currency without first giving up sovrienty.
The EU consitution is undemocratic
people are appointed not elected.
So the EU is created to fail
The big question is why?